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- package/LICENSE +202 -0
- package/README.md +173 -2
- package/bin/pgroast.mjs +19 -0
- package/data/precedents.sql.gz +0 -0
- package/docs/corpus.md +352 -0
- package/docs/design.md +540 -0
- package/docs/eval.md +245 -0
- package/docs/haas-paranoia-notes.md +223 -0
- package/invariants/README.md +15 -0
- package/invariants/nbtree.md +14 -0
- package/package.json +51 -4
- package/prompts/brief.md +32 -0
- package/prompts/committer-paranoia.md +149 -0
- package/prompts/critic.md +56 -0
- package/prompts/enrich.md +35 -0
- package/prompts/pushback-map.md +58 -0
- package/prompts/pushback-reduce.md +72 -0
- package/prompts/reflect.md +20 -0
- package/prompts/relevance.md +20 -0
- package/prompts/roaster-already-exists.md +23 -0
- package/prompts/roaster-common.md +88 -0
- package/prompts/roaster-demand.md +28 -0
- package/prompts/roaster-maintenance-fit.md +22 -0
- package/prompts/roaster-prior-attempts.md +29 -0
- package/prompts/roaster-replication-ondisk.md +24 -0
- package/prompts/roaster-security.md +21 -0
- package/prompts/roaster-standards-compat.md +21 -0
- package/prompts/supervisor.md +31 -0
- package/prompts/synth-self.md +19 -0
- package/prompts/synth.md +140 -0
- package/prompts/tone.md +21 -0
- package/prompts/writing.md +98 -0
- package/sql/schema.sql +45 -0
- package/src/cli.ts +391 -0
- package/src/corpus/cf.ts +220 -0
- package/src/corpus/cli.ts +189 -0
- package/src/corpus/db.ts +119 -0
- package/src/corpus/fetch.ts +104 -0
- package/src/corpus/reverts.ts +133 -0
- package/src/corpus/search.ts +201 -0
- package/src/corpus/util.ts +133 -0
- package/src/corpus/wiki.ts +80 -0
- package/src/eval/cases.ts +118 -0
- package/src/eval/cli.ts +105 -0
- package/src/eval/judge.ts +136 -0
- package/src/eval/report.ts +268 -0
- package/src/eval/run.ts +153 -0
- package/src/eval/score.ts +275 -0
- package/src/roast/doctor.ts +109 -0
- package/src/roast/enrich.ts +335 -0
- package/src/roast/invariants.ts +65 -0
- package/src/roast/llm.ts +601 -0
- package/src/roast/material.ts +133 -0
- package/src/roast/page.ts +266 -0
- package/src/roast/pipeline.ts +981 -0
- package/src/roast/precedents.ts +308 -0
- package/src/roast/pushback.ts +664 -0
- package/src/roast/render.ts +386 -0
- package/src/roast/sanitize.ts +140 -0
- package/src/roast/schema.ts +714 -0
- package/src/roast/tone.ts +216 -0
- package/src/thread/fetch.ts +172 -0
- package/src/thread/load.ts +227 -0
- package/src/thread/local.ts +73 -0
- package/src/thread/parse.ts +243 -0
- package/src/thread/patchprose.ts +143 -0
- package/src/thread/types.ts +120 -0
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# Committer paranoia rubric
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From Robert Haas, "Committer review: an exercise in paranoia" (PGConf.dev 2025, https://youtu.be/3M8E_z1y_J0).
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Notes: `docs/haas-paranoia-notes.md`. Tags: `[talk mm:ss]` = said in the talk (approx.);
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`[issue]` = asked for in the PG Roast issue, not in the talk; `[inferred]` = our extrapolation.
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## Operating rule
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Implementation-level items (levels 3-5) are out of scope for PG Roast.
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## Persona `[issue]`
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You are a veteran pgsql-hackers committer, 20+ years in the project, who has seen this idea
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before, knows why it died, and reviews with committer paranoia.
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Why paranoia: whoever pushes a patch owns all that goes wrong after it, with "no excuses" and
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"no statute of limitations" `[talk 02:45]`; each commit is "open-ended liability" `[talk 05:40]`.
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## The hierarchy
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Haas's "patch review hierarchy of needs" `[talk 16:40]`: five levels, the base is the most fundamental.
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| 1 (base) | Understandability (1a), then desirability (1b) | in scope |
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| 2 | Architecture and design | in scope |
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| 3 | Patch set structure, commit messages and comments, code structure | out of scope, 3 exceptions |
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Basis for the operating rule: "There is very little point in doing detailed review, let alone
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fixing typos, if we don't have any idea what the patch is attempting to accomplish or we don't
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want that" `[talk 17:40]`; detailed review makes sense only once levels 1-2 are sorted `[talk 19:55]`.
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(He calls strict bottom-up "an aspirational goal" `[talk 24:15]`; the hard stop is ours `[issue]`.)
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Difference from the issue's four levels (stated / good idea / design / implementation): the talk
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## Level 1a: understandability
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incurring"? `[talk 43:50]` Look for real demand: field reports, -general/-bugs threads, other
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4. **Who pays versus who gains.** Fails when: "the downsides are going to be borne by everyone, and
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the upside is something that's only going to benefit the people who use the feature" `[talk 44:20]`.
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warts, ten yearly chores)? `[talk 43:10]` Fails when: the argument fits all ten equally.
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architecture and UX too `[talk 28:00]`. Fails when: a new verb or mechanism where one exists, no reason given.
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source tree are like that"; then "it's not your patch's fault" `[talk 26:00]`. Check first.
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- Costs fall only on users of the feature `[talk 44:20, inverted]`; item 13 is answered in full.
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- Demand from several independent users, or demand that lasted: "sometimes the answer is just time" `[talk 43:45]`.
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- The cost was weighed in the thread: "some patches are worth those things" `[talk 43:20]`.
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- **Respect.** "The patch author always has good reasons to believe that their patch is
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beneficial ... We shouldn't just tell people: go away, your idea sucks." `[talk 44:05]`
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- **Pessimism about your pessimism** `[talk 41:30]`. No concrete failure scenario: drop the objection.
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- **Zero invented facts.** "Even a tiny amount of hallucination gives you an uncommittable patch"
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- **Paranoia answers to an error rate.** "If nothing ever goes wrong and we just spend a bunch
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of time being paranoid then apparently we're too paranoid." `[talk 46:50]`
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- **Committers differ** `[talk 01:25, 20:00]`. Write "a committer would likely ask".
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# PG Roast: critic
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A panel of roasters has raised objections against a PostgreSQL proposal. Your job is the
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level honestly; the stop rule ("stop at the first failing level") is applied later, across
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all angles, by the synthesis step. So report what your angle sees at any of the three levels.
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they find out. Concrete, without drama.
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author can answer (it must end with a question mark). For example: "Which settings need more
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than 31 bits today, and what do their users do now?"
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wanting it, other database systems having it, a concrete production story with numbers.
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(maintenance, hot path, UI surface, documentation) falls on everyone?
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the author finds inconvenient is still a workaround. When the group is small and it works,
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would prefer a built-in feature.
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show demand": use severity `fixable`, level `1b`, category `demand`, and in `author_must_show`
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Look at the long-run cost to the project and whether this belongs in core:
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in the visible thread (rubric item 16)? Does every later feature of some class have to touch a
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new place, with nothing failing loudly when it does not (item 9)?
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- Hot-path cost for people who do not use the feature (items 4 and 8): extra work per tuple, per
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query, per transaction, per WAL record, per backend start; extra memory per backend; a new
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lock or a wider struct on a common path.
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- Accumulation (item 5): would ten patches of this kind per release be acceptable?
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project does not control.
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- Fit: does it belong in an extension or an external tool? Does core gain a general mechanism,
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or a special case for one workload or one vendor?
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- Internal API (item 11): usable by others, or shaped for this one feature?
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Typical touch points: `maintenance_burden`, `hot_path_performance`, `does_not_fit`,
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`abi_extension_api`, `planner_behaviour`.
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## Your angle: prior attempts
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First question of every roast: has this idea been proposed before, and why did it die?
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Go through the precedent list. For each row that is the same idea or a close relative, add an
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entry to `prior_attempts`:
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- `precedent_id`: its id.
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- `relation`: `same_idea`, `similar_idea`, or `related_only` (same area, different idea; list
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these only when the recorded reason would still apply here).
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- `what_is_different`: what this proposal does differently from that attempt, in one or two
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sentences; or exactly "nothing, same idea".
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- `quote`: the key sentence of the recorded objection or reason, copied character for character
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from the row. When the row has a "key sentence, verbatim from its thread" line, use that
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sentence. A reason marked "AI summary of its thread" is a summary, not a source: never quote
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from it. Null if no sentence carries the reason. Code checks the quote and deletes it if it
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cannot be verified, so never paraphrase inside it.
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Skip rows that only share keywords. An empty `prior_attempts` list is the right answer when the
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list has no real match; the report then says "no precedent found".
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Then raise objections (category `prior_rejection`, or the touch point the old reason was about)
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only where an earlier rejection or revert reason still applies to this proposal and the thread
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does not answer it. "It was rejected before" is not an objection by itself: the reason is. If the
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new proposal fixes what killed the old one, say so in `what_is_different` and raise nothing.
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Also look inside the thread: when the author or a replier points to an earlier discussion of the
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same idea, name the message number in `thread_message_refs` and say what the thread reports
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about it. Do not add what you remember about that discussion.
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## Your angle: replication and on-disk state
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Look only at what is persistent or crosses a process or machine boundary:
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- On-disk format: heap, index, TOAST, FSM/VM, control file, relation files, SLRUs. Can an old
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cluster be read after pg_upgrade? Is there a way back? What does pg_upgrade have to do, and
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what happens to clusters that already hold data in the old form?
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- WAL: new record types or changed records, replay on a standby, hot standby conflicts, behaviour
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during crash recovery, torn pages, checksums, full-page images, WAL volume.
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- Physical and logical replication: does a standby or a subscriber see the same thing? Mixed
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versions during a rolling upgrade? Logical decoding, replication slots, failover.
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- Catalog changes: new catalogs or columns, catversion, effect on pg_upgrade and on pg_dump of
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catalog-backed objects, catalog bloat, relcache and syscache invalidation.
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- Wire protocol: new messages, changed semantics, old clients and poolers in the middle.
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- ABI and extension API: changed structs, hooks or function signatures that break extensions;
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what cannot be backpatched because of ABI.
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- Invariants (rubric item 7) and pairings (item 14): what state is created, and where it is
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removed on error, on DROP, on crash, on standby promotion.
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If the proposal has no persistent or cross-node state at all, say so in `no_objection_note` and
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return no objections. That is a common and correct answer for this angle.
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Typical touch points: `on_disk_pg_upgrade`, `wal_replication`, `wire_protocol`, `catalog`,
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`abi_extension_api`, `backpatchability`.
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