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+Yes, yes, and we're on the same phone, like it's on speaker.
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+I'm not sure like, if you want, like, to have them introduce, like to have him introduce
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+himself or if you want to ask specific things.
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+I'm okay with them introducing themselves.
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+Should I switch to Spanish now?
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+Yeah, that'd be fine.
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+Okay.
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+Okay.
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+Okay.
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+It's okay?
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+You're okay with that?
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+Yes.
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+Perfect.
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+My first, well this is a project that is directed by, my colleague.
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+So I'm going to follow up with your questions.
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+And as soon as the piece is ready we'll share the link, and if you have any questions, tell us.
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+Okay.
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+And well, if you want, I'd like to give you a little introduction.
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+Or if you prefer, I ask the questions, whatever works best.
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+Well, if you want, you can ask me the questions and I'll answer.
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+First, thank you very much for being here.
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+I understand that this is an interview that can be difficult.
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+So my first question for you is your age, your name, what part of Mexico are you from?
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+My name, and I currently have three children.
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+I'm years old, and I'm from.
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+What part?
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+Well, from there, from.
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+Perfect.
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+I also come from, so I would locate the area.
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+My second question for you, just a second, because I'm reading what sent me.
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+It would be, why did you decide to leave?
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+What was the situation that led you to make the decision to leave?
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+Well, where I'm from, there's not a lot of work,
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+and we came here looking for a better life.
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+Did you leave alone or did you leave with your family?
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+Alone.
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+When did you leave?
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+In 2019.
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+What do you miss about your home, and what was your favorite food, being in Mexico?
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+Well, I miss my family, because they're all there, my mom, my siblings.
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+There was no one on the other side, waiting? Were you alone?
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+Well, I had family.
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+And that motivated you to make the decision?
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+Yes.
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+And did they help you during the process?
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+Well, they lent me money to be able to come, because it's kind of expensive.
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+And when you got there, did they help you, or were you alone?
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+Well, they helped me too.
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+And how was the transition when you got there?
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+Well, by swimming through the river,
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+until we got to the side of here.
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+And what was the route you took to get to the?
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+It took you days.
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+And what was the like?
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+Well, I was at,
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+and I don't really remember how it was, because it was at night when I crossed.
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+And did you go in a group?
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+Well, there were only, but no one else was there.
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+So, you cross the river, and then you get to the border?
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+Yes.
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+And do you know how many days it took you to do this whole process?
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+Well, it depends on the situation, but for me, it was just one night,
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+swimming and just walking.
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+One night, I mean, did you feel like a whole night swimming?
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+No, we just crossed the river, and from there, we walked a little more,
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+until someone came to pick us up.
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+And how long did it take you to get there, and for someone to pick you up?
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+Well, it took me a little more than a day,
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+And how long did it take you to get there, and for someone to pick you up?
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+About ten minutes.
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+And the situation at the border with, were they present? How was it?
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+Well, I don't really remember,
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+and then and we have to get in quickly,
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+but we have to hide as best we can in the car.
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+And how dangerous was it
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+Well, for me, it was a little dangerous,
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+because you don't know the risks you can have, especially at night,
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+because the water was too cold,
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+and since the river was carrying a lot of current, it can take you.
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+So you have to swim very fast, and not let the current take you.
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+And being in groups, did it help?
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+Did it work as a group at that time?
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+Well, because the people who crossed told us that everyone had to fight for their own life,
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+because sometimes helping someone else is dangerous, because you can lose your life.
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+So you just have to see for yourself.
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+How long did your process take?
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+Or what is your current status?
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+Well, I'm still illegally.
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+And how long do you think the process lasted, or what did they tell you?
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+Well, I don't know, because I've only crossed here,
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+and I haven't done anything legally.
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+And is your life what you expected it to be?
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+Do you have opportunities, etc.?
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+Well, in one part, yes, but not in the other.
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+How does it work?
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+Well, here you can earn a little more money and be able to help your family,
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+but another part is that you have to pay a lot of expenses here,
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+and it's long hours of work.
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+What do you do in?
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+I paint houses.
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+And would you like at some point to make the decision to try to regularize your status?
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+Well, yes, it would be good.
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+Es sencillo o es muy complicado?
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+Pues he hablado con personas
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+y dicen que a la vez es complicado porque
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+pues es difícil el proceso.
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+Y a veces como depende las leyes que hay
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+aquí en cada estado, pues puede ser más difícil.
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+Usted lleva ahorita ya seis años.
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+Sí.
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+¿Y planea quedarse más tiempo?
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+Pues no sé, como por ahorita las cosas están difíciles, entonces.
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+Como no sé qué pasaría después
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+si decido como quedarme más tiempo o regresar a México.
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+Y extraña a México?
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+Pues sí, porque toda mi familia está allá
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+y. Y pues a veces es difícil de que.
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+En un momento te sientes solo y no puedes estar con tu familia.
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+Y a su familia no le gustaría en algún momento unirse
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+a?
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+Pues creo que no, porque a veces yo les les digo, pero no quieren.
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+Y eso es porque les gusta mucho México,
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+porque suena muy difícil de momento.
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+Pues les gusta México y a la vez es difícil
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+venir acá, porque es costoso cruzar así legalmente.
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+Y la vida en
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+además de los obviamente los retos de los documentos y trabajo, etcétera.
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+Fuera de eso es, digamos, es una vida que le agrada.
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+Me encanta tanto.
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+Dónde? Cómo se siente?
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+Pues me siento bien, porque.
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+Pues trabajando puedo
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+comprar ropa o cosas más, más fácilmente
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+y poder ayudar a mi familia allá en México.
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+Cuando fue la última vez que usted fue a México?
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+Hace seis años. Pues cuando?
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+Dos mil diecinueve.
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+Y desde que me vine para acá a este país no he regresado.
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+Y otra pregunta que estaba haciendo aquí fue si nos pudiera describir
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+cuál fue su última comida con su familia o amigos antes de partir?
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+De qué color era la ropa que se puso en su viaje?
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+Si tiene algunos detalles de ese tipo que recuerde que quiera compartir.
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+Sí, pues la última comida
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+fue solo un desayuno que fue café con pan.
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+Y pues solo fue como muy rápido,
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+porque las personas que me iban a llevar a la frontera pasaron
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+como muy rápido a cerca de mi casa.
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+Entonces, pues no me dio mucho tiempo también de despedirme de mi familia.
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+Recuerda qué ropa llevaba?
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+No, solo recuerdo que llevaba una sudadera gris.
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+No, chiquito.
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+Y llevaba algo más con usted, con mi mochila o qué tipo de cosas llevaba con
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+usted?
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+Sí, en una mochila llevaba solo dos camisas
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+dos camisas, porque no sabía cuántos días iba a estar en la frontera.
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+Entonces fue México con una mochila, dos camisas, un desayuno ligero y fue todo.
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+Y cuánto tiempo le tomó en y establecerse después de el
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+recorrido?
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+Pues es que estuve como dos semanas ahí en la frontera,
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+esperando hasta que fuera mi turno.
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+Su turno para poder entrar y para poder cruzar el río.
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+Y antes del desayuno, tuvo alguna cena con su familia en la noche?
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+Solo con mi mamá y dos hermanos míos,
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+que fuimos a comer tacos.
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+Y cómo se sentía su familia al respecto?
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+Pues a la vez mi mamá estaba feliz, pero también estaba triste porque.
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+Pues es que es muy riesgoso cuando uno viene para acá, porque.
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+Hay muchas cosas que pueden pasar, como es difícil cruzar el río
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+y a la vez no sabes como si vas a sobrevivir o algo así.
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+O también del lado mexicano.
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+Puedes tener riesgos de que puedas ser secuestrado.
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+Cómo es el lado mexicano al respecto?
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+Pues en ese en esa época, cuando yo llegué.
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+Pues como es que era como solo llegamos a un hotel,
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+pero de ahí no nos dejaban salir porque nos podían secuestrar,
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+como si no éramos de esa zona.
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+Y secuestrar por mi imagen no van los criminales.
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+Y entonces no nos dejaban salir del hotel hasta que era como
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+nuestro turno. Ya de ahí nos llevaban al.
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+A la orilla del río.
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+Y de ahí teníamos que cruzar el río nadando.
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+Entonces cruza, llega al otro lado e inmediatamente ya entra al país y se
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+integra. Es así como funciona.
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+Pues no así, porque.
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+Todavía ahí es como lo más riesgoso,
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+porque tienes que ocultarte y que no te
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+atrape como la policía de migración.
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+Y desde ese momento, cuánto tiempo le toma ya llegar a un lugar?
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+Establecerse es cuestión de semanas, meses.
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+Pues es cuestión de semanas,
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+porque yo recuerdo que estuve una semana
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+del lado americano en una casa en Laredo.
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+Y de ahí otra vez igual esperé mi turno para que me pudieran como
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+traer acá a donde estoy ahorita.
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+Y ellos ayudaron a conseguir trabajo.
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+Tenía amigos y ellos fueron los que me ayudaron a conseguir trabajo.
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+Y ya hay alguna barrera con respecto al lenguaje o usted ya sabe inglés?
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+No, pues todavía no sé inglés.
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+A veces también eso es difícil para como encontrar un
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+trabajo, porque a veces como no puedes comunicarte con las
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+personas.
+
+202
+00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,000
+Tiene algo mi amiga, mi compañera, mi colega,
+
+203
+00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,720
+pregunta que si tiene alguna foto sobre su viaje y si usted decida compartir
+
+204
+00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,239
+algunas, pueden difuminar los rostros,
+
+205
+00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,480
+no sobre su viaje o incluso unos días antes de su viaje.
+
+206
+00:16:12,239 --> 00:16:13,640
+Cualquier cosa que le gustaría compartir.
+
+207
+00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:14,959
+No creo que no tengo,
+
+208
+00:16:14,959 --> 00:16:19,760
+porque cuando crucé pues se me cayó el teléfono en el río
+
+209
+00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,920
+y estaba sin nada.
+
+210
+00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:27,880
+Y cuando llega usted a después de pasar por el río
+
+211
+00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,720
+y todo lo demás?
+
+212
+00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,760
+Pues solo con la ropa que.
+
+213
+00:16:33,079 --> 00:16:33,920
+Que tenemos.
+
+214
+00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,160
+Y su mochila?
+
+215
+00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,920
+No, esa no, porque también la tienes que tirar en el.
+
+216
+00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,040
+discurso del camino porque no,
+
+217
+00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,640
+no podemos llevar nada.
+
+218
+00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,880
+Entonces voy a llevar con usted dinero al menos.
+
+219
+00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,040
+Sí, sí puedes llevar dinero.
+
+220
+00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,680
+Pero supongo que también hay riesgo con eso.
+
+221
+00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,160
+Pues sí, también un poco de riesgo.
+
+222
+00:17:00,719 --> 00:17:01,559
+Pero
+
+223
+00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,799
+lo más difícil es como a veces
+
+224
+00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,959
+eh, para cambiarlo.
+
+225
+00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:10,680
+Pero
+
+226
+00:17:11,879 --> 00:17:16,320
+como no sé si es riesgoso como al cruzar
+
+227
+00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,680
+porque del de aquí del lado americano es
+
+228
+00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:27,520
+el más difícil porque te puede agarrar la policía de migración
+
+229
+00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,599
+y cuando te deportan, pues
+
+230
+00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:36,639
+sí, sí, estás como en un lugar solo y no tienes con quién comunicarte.
+
+231
+00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,439
+Te pueden secuestrar.
+
+232
+00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,839
+Usted sabiendo lo que sabe hoy, si estuviera en México,
+
+233
+00:17:44,839 --> 00:17:46,320
+tomaría la misma decisión?
+
+234
+00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,639
+Pues así como está la situación,
+
+235
+00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,680
+si quisiera como para cruzar ilegalmente no, no lo haría.
+
+236
+00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,480
+No lo volvería, o sea, no lo haría porque esta situación ahorita,
+
+237
+00:18:02,199 --> 00:18:04,680
+si estuviera como estaba antes, si hubiera hecho de nuevo.
+
+238
+00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:10,080
+No, pues no creo porque si es como riesgoso.
+
+239
+00:18:12,199 --> 00:18:15,720
+Y si alguien le preguntara a usted, bueno, me encantaría hacerlo,
+
+240
+00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,000
+tengo su necesidad, etcétera.
+
+241
+00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,080
+O sea que recomendaría a nuevas personas que busquen la misma oportunidad?
+
+242
+00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,879
+Pues es que cuando estás en México y tienes familia
+
+243
+00:18:27,879 --> 00:18:32,839
+o personas que están en este país, te cuentan como las cosas buenas.
+
+244
+00:18:32,839 --> 00:18:36,839
+Te dicen que vas a ganar mucho dinero y entonces,
+
+245
+00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:42,480
+pues nosotros nos emocionamos porque eso creemos de que vamos a llegar
+
+246
+00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,199
+aquí y ganar mucho dinero para mandar a nuestra familia,
+
+247
+00:18:47,199 --> 00:18:52,520
+que vamos a comprar carro, vamos a comprar casa muy fácil,
+
+248
+00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,720
+pero es difícil porque
+
+249
+00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,639
+cuando vienes ilegalmente.
+
+250
+00:18:59,679 --> 00:19:03,399
+Pues tienes una deuda con las personas que te cruzan.
+
+251
+00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:11,440
+Entonces lo primero que tienes que hacer es buscar trabajo
+
+252
+00:19:12,679 --> 00:19:18,399
+para poderles pagar a ellos, a las personas que te llevan aquí.
+
+253
+00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,600
+Y como cuánto tiempo toma lograr saldar esa deuda?
+
+254
+00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,039
+Cuando yo pasé,
+
+255
+00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:29,399
+fueron como un año aproximadamente.
+
+256
+00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,520
+Y a partir de entonces usted ya pudo ahorrar y hacer todo lo demás?
+
+257
+00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:39,960
+Sí, pero pues a la vez es difícil también porque
+
+258
+00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:45,240
+tienes que después de que pagas la deuda,
+
+259
+00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:50,039
+pues tienes que pagar la deuda y después de que pagas la deuda,
+
+260
+00:19:50,839 --> 00:19:52,679
+después de que pagas la deuda,
+
+261
+00:19:52,679 --> 00:19:57,199
+pues tienes que sacar un apartamento,
+
+262
+00:19:57,279 --> 00:20:02,600
+comprar tu propio vehículo para poder ir al trabajo.
+
+263
+00:20:04,759 --> 00:20:07,440
+Porque a veces como las personas
+
+264
+00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:13,000
+ya no te quieren hacer favor de llevarte al trabajo o algo así,
+
+265
+00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,880
+entonces después de que pagas tu deuda,
+
+266
+00:20:16,919 --> 00:20:21,039
+tienes que comprar un vehículo.
+
+267
+00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,399
+Entiendo. Y cómo es su día a día de momento?
+
+268
+00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,960
+Pues así como está la situación ahorita,
+
+269
+00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,839
+es difícil porque como salimos al trabajo,
+
+270
+00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:41,479
+pero no sabemos si vamos a regresar a casa o
+
+271
+00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:46,279
+o si nos va a atrapar la policía de migración
+
+272
+00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:47,559
+y nos puede deportar.
+
+273
+00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,440
+Entonces es como un riesgo también por mí.
+
+274
+00:20:52,679 --> 00:20:53,639
+Estás con miedo.
+
+275
+00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,040
+Esto era antes. Esto era mucho mejor antes de esa nueva presidencia.
+
+276
+00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,640
+La situación era más tranquila, digamos un año atrás o dos años atrás.
+
+277
+00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,720
+Pues un poco, un poco sí, porque
+
+278
+00:21:09,799 --> 00:21:15,799
+pues no era tan tan riesgoso salir al trabajo o a las tiendas.
+
+279
+00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,079
+Y usted lo que hace primordialmente es pintar casas o tiene diferentes tipos de
+
+280
+00:21:21,079 --> 00:21:21,920
+trabajos?
+
+281
+00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,559
+No, pues por el momento solo eso, pintar casas.
+
+282
+00:21:28,239 --> 00:21:31,920
+Pues muchísimas gracias por su tiempo y por compartir su historia con nosotros.
+
+283
+00:21:32,079 --> 00:21:33,640
+Tiene algo más que decir que nos guste,
+
+284
+00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,559
+que le gustaría que se hubiera reflejado en la pieza o algo que nos falte?
+
+285
+00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,000
+Pues no sé si usted quisiera preguntar algo más.
+
+286
+00:21:43,239 --> 00:21:44,559
+Creo que por el momento es todo.
+
+287
+00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,440
+Creo que por el momento es todo, pero si a surgir alguna otra duda,
+
+288
+00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:50,239
+podríamos contactarlo de nuevo.
+
+289
+00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,880
+Sí.
+
+290
+00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,920
+Muchísimas gracias por su tiempo y por esta entrevista.
+
+291
+00:21:56,399 --> 00:21:57,399
+Sí, de nada.
+
+292
+00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,640
+A ver, I think we're done.
+
+293
+00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:06,760
+Thank you so much. Thank you, Fernando.
+
+294
+00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,760
+Do you have a like Elizabeth?
+
+295
+00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,119
+Perhaps you can translate this.
+
+296
+00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:17,000
+Do you have a name that he wants us to use instead of Fernando?
+
+297
+00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,239
+Or can we just make it up?
+
+298
+00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,320
+And how how old is he?
+
+299
+00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,359
+Did we get that?
+
+300
+00:22:23,839 --> 00:22:25,519
+Sí, sí. Yes, I think you mentioned that.
+
+301
+00:22:27,959 --> 00:22:30,480
+Fernando, me pregunté a Lea que si.
+
+302
+00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,839
+Que le gustaría que usáramos su nombre en la pieza o deberíamos usar otro tipo de
+
+303
+00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:36,239
+nombre o inventamos un nombre?
+
+304
+00:22:36,239 --> 00:22:38,519
+O sea, que prefiere que hagamos?
+
+305
+00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:41,880
+¿Quién le puede inventar otro nombre?
+
+306
+00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,239
+¿Me puede repetir su edad de momento?
+
+307
+00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:46,799
+¿En este momento?
+
+308
+00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,000
+Veintiséis.
+
+309
+00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,200
+Veintiséis, correcto.
+
+310
+00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,720
+Yes, so he says he prefers us to use another name.
+
+311
+00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,040
+And right now.
+
+312
+00:22:54,079 --> 00:22:56,959
+He's been in the for six years now, since.
+
+313
+00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,399
+OK, thank you so much.
+
+314
+00:23:00,959 --> 00:23:01,959
+Thank you, Emma.
+
+315
+00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,160
+Thank you, Fernando.
+
+316
+00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,679
+And thank you, Elizabeth.
+
+317
+00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,359
+I know it's so early for you.
+
+318
+00:23:06,399 --> 00:23:07,399
+Thank you so much.
+
+319
+00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,720
+Eso es bueno.
+
+320
+00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,320
+No, muchísimas gracias, Emma y Fernando.
+
+321
+00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,480
+Eso es súper valorado y nos encantaría mantener el contacto.
+
+322
+00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,760
+Sí, está bien.
+
+323
+00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,640
+Thank you, Emma.
+
+324
+00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:24,279
+Yeah, thank you.
+
+325
+00:23:24,959 --> 00:23:25,959
+Thank you so much, Emma.
+
+326
+00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,880
+I'll be in touch. Thank you.
+
+327
+00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,480
+OK, sounds good.
+
+328
+00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,600
+Take care.
+
+329
+00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:33,839
+Nos vemos. Muchas gracias.
+
+330
+00:23:33,839 --> 00:23:35,320
+Hasta luego. Bye.
+
+331
+00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,480
+Bye bye.
+
+332
+00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,600
+Recording stopped.
+
+333
+00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:42,559
+Hey.
+
+334
+00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:43,559
+Hey, how was it?
+
+335
+00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,839
+It was good. I asked like tons of questions that maybe were not there,
+
+336
+00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:47,839
+but maybe it will help you.
+
+337
+00:23:48,679 --> 00:23:51,000
+Things that maybe we know a bit more about the trip and stuff.
+
+338
+00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,720
+He was a little bit short in some answers, but I think it could be helpful
+
+339
+00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,640
+for you. He didn't give so many details, for instance, about your last meal
+
+340
+00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,600
+and this and that. He was very specific about that.
+
+341
+00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,079
+But I asked many other things that maybe will help in the context of your
+
+342
+00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:06,519
+piece. Things like how is your life
+
+343
+00:24:06,679 --> 00:24:08,640
+We recommend people taking this journey again.
+
+344
+00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:11,359
+What is your routine like sometimes?
+
+345
+00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,160
+How was your trip?
+
+346
+00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,040
+And he was describing how it was like being in the river or things like that.
+
+347
+00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,320
+Oh, gosh. Yeah.
+
+348
+00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,160
+And did you talk about what he does
+
+349
+00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,720
+Yes, he paid house rents.
+
+350
+00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,920
+He doesn't speak English.
+
+351
+00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,839
+He doesn't have yet his documents, but he mainly paid houses
+
+352
+00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:33,600
+and run into this with fear, of course, of kind of going out
+
+353
+00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,079
+and being trapped and having to come back.
+
+354
+00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,200
+And I ask if if you were to take this decision again right now,
+
+355
+00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:39,920
+would you take it?
+
+356
+00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,880
+And he's like, no, not really.
+
+357
+00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,880
+It's like kind of dangerous.
+
+358
+00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,160
+And I would not recommend this because when people are outside,
+
+359
+00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,720
+they tell you the good things like, oh, you're going to earn a lot of money.
+
+360
+00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,000
+You're going to have a job and stuff.
+
+361
+00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,160
+But they don't tell you kind of the other side.
+
+362
+00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,200
+And he's like, that's a part of we didn't fully know until we came here.
+
+363
+00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,320
+And something interesting that he said.
+
+364
+00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,959
+Sorry, tell me, please go ahead. I'll ask.
+
+365
+00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:12,000
+Something interesting that he said as well was that it was dangerous