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Ellis</a> and <a class="user" href="/Bob-Scirpo">Bob Scirpo</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2098"></div>Slow is great, but only if you have revenues. If you are an iphone photosharing application; then slow means you can only survive for as long as venture capitalists are willing to pump more money into the company.<br /><br />Even if the company exits at $250 million in ten years, the liquidation preferences for the preferred will be piled so high that there will be nothing left for the employees and management (like Slide).<br /><br />Digg had 15 million a year in revenue at peak, but have never been profitable. Then traffic fell by 50% after the user numbers peaked.<br /><br />A &quot;slow&quot; company can make money for the founders, but only if they achieve a high valuation and sell off common stock to investors (etc. &quot;take money off the table&quot;). Otherwise the only way a company without revenues can generate returns for its investors is if it is flipped.<br /><br />A &quot;slow company&quot; does not make sense if backed by venture capital, because the fund partners need to show returns to their LPs within a 15 year period. If the company does a secondary sale and early investors sell their stake to new investors, then maybe a &quot;slow company&quot; could exist.<br /><br />As an investment, I am not sure that a &quot;slow company&quot; makes any sense.<br /><br />By &quot;slow company&quot;, what they mean is &quot;We will build a bunch of crap and something will be successful eventually&quot;. The idea of a &quot;slow company&quot; is probably just a way of putting off pressure to show revenues and traction early in the company&#039;s history.<br /><br />Many successful companies (Paypal, Slide, etc...) were started by entrepreneurs who had no idea what they were doing and who changed markets and products several times.<br /><br />If the private equity bubble pops again, the &quot;slow companies&quot; without revenues are going to be the ones who are hit the hardest.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_XQZjZ2v_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2099"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_ykKhKPO_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2100"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Will-Dave-Morins-slow-product-movement-be-successful/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_Wj4w2xF_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2216"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2101"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_Qln4EKb_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2276"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2296"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Will-Dave-Morins-slow-product-movement-be-successful/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2016"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_gd41UzX_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2038"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2077"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2238"></span><a class="question_link" href="/If-you-are-an-investor-for-an-early-stage-company-do-you-place-more-value-on-1MM-unique-visitor-or-the-ability-to-convert-at-5-but-only-1000-customers" id="__w2_aas7t66_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2239"></span>If you are an investor for an early stage company, do you place more value on 1MM unique visitor or the ability to convert at 5%+ but only 1000 customers?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2039"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_XVwGvUp_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_XVwGvUp_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2102"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_QExLg6e_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_QExLg6e_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_XVwGvUp_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_gPSYYup_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_gPSYYup_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_gPSYYup_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_XVwGvUp_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2103"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a> and <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2104"></div>If you can monetize, then you can reinvest revenues into customer acquisition through search and display advertising. As soon as you can get your cost per customer acquisition below the LTV of your users, you can scale up through display advertising and search advertising channels.<br /><br />Having a repeatable customer acquisition process is more important than the total number of users. Having a CAC below your LTV shows your investors that you have something to spend money on.<br /><br />If you cannot monetize (ex. Twitter), then having a large number of users is the only alternative.<br /><br />If you can convert users, the next thing you want to do is to try different user acquisition channels and determine what is effective for your business. It is more difficult to acquire users profitably at scale without revenues to reinvest into customer acquisition channels.<br /><br />I do not believe that the answer is one or the other. It depends on your customer acquisition channels and depends on whether your channel is SEO or display advertising. Conversion rates do not matter as much for SEO traffic, which is effectively free; where as conversion rates are critical to optimize if your traffic is display or search advertising driven, because increases conversion rates will lower you CAC.<br /><br />Improving your product will improve churn rates.<br />Decreasing churn rates will increase LTV for subscription service<br />Improving your conversion rates will improve (decrease) your CAC<br /><br />What matter is not &quot;conversion rates&quot; or &quot;number of users&quot;, but &quot;number of new users times conversion rate&quot;, because that is the rate of user-base growth. You can either improve the conversion rate or you can improve the number of user coming into customer acquisition channel, but the rate of user growth will be the arithmetic product of those two variables.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_XVwGvUp_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2105"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_jkxO8Rj_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2106"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/If-you-are-an-investor-for-an-early-stage-company-do-you-place-more-value-on-1MM-unique-visitor-or-the-ability-to-convert-at-5-but-only-1000-customers/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_n3mpkbj_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2217"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2107"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_NFqiFVw_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2277"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2297"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/If-you-are-an-investor-for-an-early-stage-company-do-you-place-more-value-on-1MM-unique-visitor-or-the-ability-to-convert-at-5-but-only-1000-customers/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2017"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_uPolE0e_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2040"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2078"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2240"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-do-I-create-a-social-life-after-college-that-rivals-or-is-better-than-the-average-college-social-life" id="__w2_gSVSSxW_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2241"></span>How do I create a social life after college that rivals or is better than the average college social life?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2041"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_jUK2Hew_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_jUK2Hew_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2108"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_hP9NcY7_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_hP9NcY7_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_jUK2Hew_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_AoyYZ2A_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_AoyYZ2A_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_AoyYZ2A_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_jUK2Hew_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2109"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">6</strong> votes</span> by <span id="__w2_YuaTeiU_view_all"><a class="user" href="/Aaron-Chiu">Aaron Chiu</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a>, </span> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_YuaTeiU_view_all_link">(more)</a><span class="hidden" id="__w2_YuaTeiU_all_phrases"><a class="user" href="/Aaron-Chiu">Aaron Chiu</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a>, <a class="user" href="/Alistair-Atkinson">Alistair Atkinson</a>, <a class="user" href="/Surya-Yalamanchili">Surya Yalamanchili</a> and <a class="user" href="/Kavin-Kankeshwar">Kavin Kankeshwar</a></span></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2110"></div>1&gt; Get money. Work 80 hours a week, sacrifice your life, build a company, sell it for enough money that you can live comfortably.<br /><br />2&gt; Move to LA<br /><br />3&gt; Join the Karma Foundation. <a href="http://thekarmafoundation.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://thekarmafoundation<wbr />.com/</a><br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-87642727d03a0818e648813c31cdb4ee" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-7befcfd5eed92a6fad6da541853020d7" master_w="570" master_h="380" /><br />I spent eight years of my life in the library during and before high school, reading sociology, psychology, cognitive science, physics, computer science books and biographies. Then in college I spent three years in the library studying computational chemistry, machine learning and mathematics (which is why my twitter handle is RKHilbertSpace :).<br /><br />Then after college, I worked &quot;investment banker hours&quot; bootstrapping my startup, until my hair line was receding from the stress. I did not have much of a &#039;social life&#039; and all my relationships were business related. I did not have time for people that could not help me achieve my goals. By the end I had very few people that I talked to daily and who I enjoyed being around.<br /><br />I have not sold my companies yet, but after I moved to LA from NY I started meeting people who have sold their companies and they are much more relaxed and happier than I am.<br /><br />I told someone I wanted a G5 eventually, but that right now I am only trying to build a 15m/year business and that later in life, when I am more experienced and have more resources that I wanted take on more risk. He told me &quot;As you get older, you will find that other things become more important than owning a jet. You will find that time becomes more valuable. For instance travel has become much more important to me.&quot; I responded, &quot;Yes, when I sell my company, I hope that I do not become too lazy to go after the jet.&quot; and we both laughed.<br /><br />I am learning that having a good social life means being around people with common goals, aspirations and values.<br /><br />I am realizing that most people have nothing in common with me and that I do not enjoy being around them. Most people wake up, goto work and come home to watch television. They &quot;rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.&quot;<br /><br />Having goals and people around me to aspire to those goals with, has improved my social life more than anything else.  Being successful and having other people to enjoy that success with is the most important thing.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_jUK2Hew_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2111"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_EZ0noBA_view_comment_link">5 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2112"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-do-I-create-a-social-life-after-college-that-rivals-or-is-better-than-the-average-college-social-life/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_MGXxUiN_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2218"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2113"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_v0EPwoF_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2278"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2298"><a name="comment218364"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_ZUKcLpL_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Brandon, you rock.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_kjYSdct_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2299"><a name="comment218586"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_pTrNZee_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Sky father! <br /><br />There are simpler ways to hang out with skanky ladies.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Thomas-Hartman">Thomas Hartman</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_SaylMqY_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2300"><a name="comment218639"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_H4gk2rc_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Thomas, I know you love to dance, but expensive dancing classes only solve the lead generation problem.<br /><br />Having lots of money solves the dating problem on the demand size. It is the fastest way to increase your conversion rates and fatten your user acquisition funnel.<br /><br />I have A/B tested this one.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_mG3DkCN_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2301"><a name="comment218655"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_qY45QVz_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">I&#039;ll see you at lindy groove yet, you disturbing person.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Thomas-Hartman">Thomas Hartman</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_IrlT8lj_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2302"><a name="comment218682"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_RodroSP_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text"><a href="http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&amp;hl=en&amp;q=%22now+you+have+two+problems%22&amp;aq=f&amp;aqi=g-v2g-o1&amp;aql=f&amp;oq=&amp;pbx=1&amp;fp=d87fcfdb2e6b7745" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.google.com/#sc<wbr />lient=p...</a></p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Thomas-Hartman">Thomas Hartman</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_hLPiyWg_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2303"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/How-do-I-create-a-social-life-after-college-that-rivals-or-is-better-than-the-average-college-social-life/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 5 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2018"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_IOgQuST_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2042"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2079"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2242"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-long-before-we-see-a-social-game-engine-written-entirely-in-html-5-javascript" id="__w2_BU2E9ig_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2243"></span>How long before we see a social game engine written entirely in html 5 &amp; javascript?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2043"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_TLkBMXj_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_TLkBMXj_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2114"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_EASV2M6_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_EASV2M6_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_TLkBMXj_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_gyH7Ddi_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_gyH7Ddi_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_gyH7Ddi_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_TLkBMXj_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2115"></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2116"></div>Like yesterday. These HTML5 game engine companies are being flipped in M&amp;A transactions left and right.<br /><br />E3 2010 Aves Engine Prototype &quot;Suburban World&quot; - all HTML, CSS and JavaScript<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmtQOB_KFzU" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.youtube.com/wa<wbr />tch?v=S...</a><br /><br />This company was Dextrose and was recently acquired by Zynga.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_TLkBMXj_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2117"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_tEFRqCu_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2118"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-long-before-we-see-a-social-game-engine-written-entirely-in-html-5-javascript/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_S9QYHy2_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2219"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2119"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_mPystC7_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2279"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2304"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/How-long-before-we-see-a-social-game-engine-written-entirely-in-html-5-javascript/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2019"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_kscj01A_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2044"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2080"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2244"></span><a class="question_link" href="/What-do-failed-startups-tell-their-investors" id="__w2_oIOD0xb_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2245"></span>What do failed startups tell their investors?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2045"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_Lm06SlC_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_Lm06SlC_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2120"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_eYd33AY_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_eYd33AY_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_Lm06SlC_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_DabNPcs_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_DabNPcs_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_DabNPcs_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_Lm06SlC_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2121"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by Anon User and <a class="user" href="/Michiel-van-Vlaardingen">Michiel van Vlaardingen</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2122"></div>Investors are used to it.<br /><br />I have met angels who have made 15 investments and only 5 of them are still active. Only one of those 5 has any chance of a 30x exit. Often, the exit of one company in the angel&#039;s portfolio will offset the losses from all the other investments in their portfolio!<br /><br />Even if some of the companies succeed, they may not generate returns for the investor unless the company exits. Venture capitalists can replace the management team and force and exit. However, angels are vulnerable to funding &#039;life style businesses&#039; that generate wealth for the management team, but which do not produce returns for the investors within a finite amount of time. Angels and other minority shareholders are also not in a position to force the company to exit.<br /><br />You do not need to make excuses to investors for company failure. I know three separate entrepreneurs that founded or worked at a WAP mobile website startup during the .com bubble. Their companies all died, because the market did not develop for another eight year. They were &quot;too early&quot;. There was nothing they could have done.<br /><br />Group buying failed as an online business model several times before Groupon succeeded. Making seed stage private equity investments is the process of choosing the wrong term, wrong market and wrong product 80% of the time.  <br /><br />Even venture capitalists, who have more stringent investment criteria, have 70% of their portfolio companies fail, in the sense of the companies failing to return more than 1x the capital invested. Approximately 30% of VC Series A investments are wash sales. Another 40% return 1x and nothing is left over for the common shareholders after liquidation preferences and participation.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_Lm06SlC_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2123"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_PGa7xI7_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2124"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/What-do-failed-startups-tell-their-investors/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_u4JHpeO_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2220"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2125"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_CTSBiMb_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2280"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2305"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/What-do-failed-startups-tell-their-investors/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2020"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_ecsSoL3_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2046"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2081"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2246"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Why-did-Numenta-fail-to-capitalize-on-the-excitement-generated-by-On-Intelligence" id="__w2_WIZCZkc_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2247"></span>Why did Numenta fail to capitalize on the excitement generated by &quot;On Intelligence&quot;?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2047"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_HfxK13U_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_HfxK13U_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2126"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_NKHmbD7_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_NKHmbD7_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_HfxK13U_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_jW4zTSL_link"><span class="rep">The Singularity is Near.</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_jW4zTSL_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_jW4zTSL_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_HfxK13U_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2127"></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2128"></div>The book was useless.<br /><br />I read it, but there was no mathematics at all in it. There was no API documentation in the appendix. It did not tell me how to monetize the software API.<br /><br />The book was interesting to read, but gave me the impression that the algorithms do not actually exist in a concrete form. In terms of mathematics, I am still not sure what &quot;Hierarchical Temporal Memory&quot; is and how to implement it.<br /><br />I once read a 2 page neuroscience paper by Granger and at the end could implement his algorithm for sparse decompositions for sensory processing, in Matlab. After <i>On Intelligence</i>, I was no closer to being able to implement anything useful.<br /><br />I did take away somethings from the book. Mainly that the human neocortex is composed of one structural component, repeated several million times. I also learned about the importance of reciprocal feedback in machine learning systems (as opposed to strict forward feedback). After reading the book, I did not understand how the neocortical columns did sequence learning or learned features from the input data.<br /><br />I studied the EPAM and ACT-R cognitive architectures in college and I found Numenta&#039;s &quot;bottoms up&quot; very interested. However, I feel that Numenta&#039;s machine learning algorithms and API will only become useful when integrated with a specific cognitive architecture.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_HfxK13U_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2129"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_pocbWAH_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2130"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Why-did-Numenta-fail-to-capitalize-on-the-excitement-generated-by-On-Intelligence/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_NMmKvPL_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2221"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2131"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_ConbRTY_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2281"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2306"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Why-did-Numenta-fail-to-capitalize-on-the-excitement-generated-by-On-Intelligence/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View 1 Comment</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2021"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_KKhiMmu_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2048"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2082"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2248"></span><a class="question_link" href="/What-are-the-reasons-behind-the-banning-of-the-term-civil-society-in-Chinese-media" id="__w2_jvstOeq_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2249"></span>What are the reasons behind the banning of the term civil society in Chinese media?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2049"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_ULqywVj_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_ULqywVj_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2132"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_Bl5sKLj_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_Bl5sKLj_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_ULqywVj_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_yXmm4fm_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_yXmm4fm_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_yXmm4fm_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_ULqywVj_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2133"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a> and <a class="user" href="/Craig-Montuori">Craig Montuori</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2134"></div><blockquote>The campaign by China&#039;s netizens against the government’s ambitious attempt to control and monitor internet usage is a signal of their emerging political power, says Li Datong.<br /></blockquote><br />China&#039;s civil society: breaching the Green Dam <a href="http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/china-s-civil-society-breaching-the-green-dam" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.opendemocr<wbr />acy.net/art...</a><br /><br />Chinese journalists also are no allowed to use the notion of &quot;a tax payer&quot; as in someone who contributes to the government and there receives entitlements.<br /><br /><blockquote>Social scientists believe that a country&#039;s progression toward a more open, pluralistic and competitive political system is dependent on whether the country allows a civil society to emerge.<br /></blockquote><br />The notion of a &#039;civil society&#039;, is the US model of a liberal democracy, where government is controlled by special interest groups and NGOs, instead of by governmental organizations. Popular support for a &#039;civil society&#039; would undermine the legitimacy of China&#039;s existing governance structures.<br /><br />The notion of &quot;civil society&quot; was gaining popular support among academics and among internet users.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.brookings.edu/papers/2003/08china_ye.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.brookings.edu/<wbr />papers/...</a><div class="action_bar" id="__w2_ULqywVj_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2135"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_luNDITO_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2136"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/What-are-the-reasons-behind-the-banning-of-the-term-civil-society-in-Chinese-media/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_VpSMzII_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2222"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2137"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_y75YApd_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2282"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2307"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/What-are-the-reasons-behind-the-banning-of-the-term-civil-society-in-Chinese-media/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2022"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_ZWGM3Vc_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2050"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2083"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2250"></span><a class="question_link" href="/What-is-the-next-evolution-of-group-buying" id="__w2_QoBscj6_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2251"></span>What is the next evolution of group buying?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2051"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_hI8sAKy_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_hI8sAKy_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2138"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_nS2FICG_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_nS2FICG_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_hI8sAKy_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_bjfHM2m_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_bjfHM2m_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_bjfHM2m_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_hI8sAKy_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2139"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">1</strong> vote</span> by <a class="user" href="/Leon-Kitain">Leon Kitain</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2140"></div><b>The future of group buying is mobile.</b> The future of group buying is badges and location based services<br /><br />Crowds of people will flash mob department stores for deals. People will die in the stampede for lower prices. Group buying + location based services <b>is going to dramatically increase the risk of being trampled to death in a Walmart Stampede.</b><br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-8102e217f9f6256ad6c01965ac0e66d3" /><br />Group buying + mobile applications will give retailers the ability to create instant flash mobs for product deals.<br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-ad2a4221c72ee6548db62a7caa810d67" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-1977e3e5dc78dd65a2ddba46a65ac378" master_w="500" master_h="333" /><br />People will die in the stampede to get the &quot;I was in line first&quot; badges.<br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-98ba2cfe22f92bea5bd058cc9d4df4a8" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-3df3c9c87f3c370f7526ad5e22348bb0" master_w="634" master_h="380" /><br />People will wait in line for badges. People will wait overnight for badges associated with being to first people to make a product purchase. Not only will you have a badge for waiting outside for two days in the rain to see the opening of the next Starwars movie, but you will get a free popcorn and carry the badge with you for the rest of your life.<br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-232439b296182fe5c6ac8c593f1ffd80" /><br />Badges will make waiting in line for 2 days for your iPhone, worth it! Group buying and badges are a recipe for &quot;buying hysteria&quot;.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_hI8sAKy_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2141"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_SlJknGV_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2142"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/What-is-the-next-evolution-of-group-buying/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_mX00AJc_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2223"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2143"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_MHzoMrJ_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2283"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2308"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/What-is-the-next-evolution-of-group-buying/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View 1 Comment</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2023"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_ZeCZxz0_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2052"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2084"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2252"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Yahoo/What-were-the-reasons-for-the-recent-Yahoo-layoffs-Which-product-teams-were-cut-down-and-why" id="__w2_SiGyjbs_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2253"></span>What were the reasons for the recent Yahoo layoffs? Which product teams were cut down and why?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2053"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_KBvAv4p_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_KBvAv4p_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2144"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_PPhQFWF_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_PPhQFWF_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_KBvAv4p_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_bOo98z2_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_bOo98z2_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_bOo98z2_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_KBvAv4p_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2145"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">1</strong> vote</span> by <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. 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However, this is only a constant factor difference in performance.<br /><br />Languages do not &quot;scale&quot;, architectures scale; although there is a constant difference in performance for each web development language.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_dCz0I5Y_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2153"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_aDkL3Ak_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2154"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/What-web-languages-are-best-suited-for-mass-scaling-an-application/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_WRGTMBS_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2225"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2155"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_kMnuTxO_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2285"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2310"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/What-web-languages-are-best-suited-for-mass-scaling-an-application/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2025"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_vXywAwf_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2056"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2086"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2256"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Do-I-go-with-first-positive-VC-or-give-it-more-time" id="__w2_JUOWIb9_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2257"></span>Do I go with first positive VC or give it more time?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2057"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_LFEBG0N_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_LFEBG0N_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2156"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_S7TBN2N_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_S7TBN2N_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_LFEBG0N_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_lmICkn5_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_lmICkn5_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_lmICkn5_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_LFEBG0N_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2157"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">1</strong> vote</span> by <a class="user" href="/Paweł-Nowak">Paweł Nowak</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2158"></div>Talk to a few people, find someone you like. Do some reference checks on the investors. Call up the CEOs of his failed portfolio companies. Call up the CEOs of his successful portfolio companies.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_LFEBG0N_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2159"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_eE1g3KE_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2160"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Do-I-go-with-first-positive-VC-or-give-it-more-time/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_uruWUmf_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2226"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2161"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_LsFbx8R_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2286"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2311"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Do-I-go-with-first-positive-VC-or-give-it-more-time/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View 1 Comment</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2026"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_S8SfmLz_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2058"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2087"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2258"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Startup-Ideas/How-can-someone-get-help-to-develop-ideas-for-an-online-business-without-having-the-ideas-stolen" id="__w2_icUSUDW_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2259"></span>How can someone get help to develop ideas for an online business without having the ideas stolen?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2059"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_u00j133_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_u00j133_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2162"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_PEKFYbT_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_PEKFYbT_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_u00j133_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_qc7zzJ3_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_qc7zzJ3_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_qc7zzJ3_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_u00j133_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2163"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">11</strong> votes</span> by <span id="__w2_tpcpAYM_view_all"><a class="user" href="/Tariq-Alasiri">Tariq Alasiri</a>, <a class="user" href="/Arnav-Guleria">Arnav Guleria</a>, <a class="user" href="/Pawel-Janiak">Pawel Janiak</a>, </span> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_tpcpAYM_view_all_link">(more)</a><span class="hidden" id="__w2_tpcpAYM_all_phrases"><a class="user" href="/Tariq-Alasiri">Tariq Alasiri</a>, <a class="user" href="/Arnav-Guleria">Arnav Guleria</a>, <a class="user" href="/Pawel-Janiak">Pawel Janiak</a>, <a class="user" href="/Leon-Kitain">Leon Kitain</a>, <a class="user" href="/Jeffrey-Ross">Jeffrey Ross</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a>, <a class="user" href="/Joseph-Reisinger">Joseph Reisinger</a>, <a class="user" href="/Andrew-McCluskey">Andrew McCluskey</a>, <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a> and <a class="user" href="/Darren-Lehane">Darren Lehane</a></span></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2164"></div>I have a person a month email me a question like this. I just walked by a homeless man with a sign that read: &quot;Looking for technical co-founder&quot;.<br /><br /><b>So You Want to Start a Web Startup: </b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6gZ4vk_Tw4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.youtu<wbr />be.com/watch?v=u...</a><br /><b><br /></b>&quot;I have a brilliant idea and I want you to implement it for free! However, I cannot tell you the idea, because I am afraid that you will steal it.&quot;<br /><br /> <span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Yishan-Wong-1">Yishan Wong</a></span> tells me I should tell them &quot;Kid, don&#039;t delude yourself, you&#039;d be lucky to be Eduardo Saverin.&quot;<br /><br />The following conversation is real!<br /><br /><b>Person: </b>&quot;you are asking lots of questions and we have no NDA&quot;<br /><br /><b>Me:</b> Are you afraid that I am going to clone your 25,000 lines of LISP before New Years, raise 3 million at a 15 million valuation, hire 30 engineers and bury you?<br /><br />I like to remind people, that if their idea is so great and I decide to clone it, the NDA wont protect them against the &quot;ravenous free market forces&quot; that result when I launch a competitor. I like to scare some sense into these people by bragging about my &quot;army&quot; of &quot;rockstar&quot; Python, Lisp, Ruby and Haskell engineers.<br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-9acf4dc347d503197f5a10af764484c1" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-ba5e4d3696fb347eb3b1ae3e0d81c378" master_w="514" master_h="315" /><br /><b>Non-technical Person:</b> &quot;Do you have rock star developers?&quot;<br /><br /><b>Me: </b>&quot;You can tell rock star developers apart from mere 25x engineers because rock stars have groupies. Do your rails developers have groupies?&quot; <br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-16558f9d1b9a90a1d8fcff74eff2fa69" /><br />The other favorite thing someone has said to me is,<br /><br />&quot;Build my company and my product and I will give you 15% of the equity!&quot;<br /><br />I always tell these people, &quot;<b>God helps those who help themselves</b>&quot;, which means &quot;<b>Start learning PHP</b>&quot;.<br /><br />Ideas are worthless -- execution is everything.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_u00j133_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2165"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_CcmYcmQ_view_comment_link">3 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2166"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Startup-Ideas/How-can-someone-get-help-to-develop-ideas-for-an-online-business-without-having-the-ideas-stolen/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_ecYKp3D_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2227"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2167"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_SbGUsm2_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2287"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2312"><a name="comment190879"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_UAT10TH_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Brendon, this killed me:<br /><br />I just walked by a homeless man with a sign that read: &quot;Looking for technical co-founder&quot;.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Pawel-Janiak">Pawel Janiak</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_nK0Wn2F_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2313"><a name="comment191522"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_Hu0Idyh_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Lol. I didn&#039;t know there were enough Haskell engineers to make an army. Let alone a ravenous army. Let alone a ravenous, rockstar army.<br /><br />And the quad guitar is awesome,. It&#039;s also a great example of a totally badass idea that can be stolen when you don&#039;t have an NDA. :p</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_BSjudXX_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2314"><a name="comment192148"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_ditP6kS_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Haskell programmers are &quot;an army of one&quot;.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_kpCLlSB_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2315"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Startup-Ideas/How-can-someone-get-help-to-develop-ideas-for-an-online-business-without-having-the-ideas-stolen/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 5 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2027"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_XCVLOzF_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2060"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2088"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2260"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Is-it-common-to-ask-a-hiring-company-CEO-to-explain-the-capital-structure-of-their-company" id="__w2_TUMOrFz_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2261"></span>Is it common to ask a hiring company CEO to explain the capital structure of their company?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2061"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_AlKluQN_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_AlKluQN_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2168"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_iyXMRCx_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_iyXMRCx_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_AlKluQN_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_phnyvka_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_phnyvka_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_phnyvka_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_AlKluQN_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2169"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">4</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Alex-Kosorukoff">Alex Kosorukoff</a>, <a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a>, <a class="user" href="/Martin-Wawrusch">Martin Wawrusch</a> and <a class="user" href="/Johnnie-Manzari">Johnnie Manzari</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2170"></div>If you do not understand the liquidation preferences and capital structure it is impossible to determine the actual value of the common stock.<br /><br />When making a decision about a job offer, you should be judging the company in the same way as an investor.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_AlKluQN_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2171"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_eaFwKxF_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; 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Hewitt</a>, <a class="user" href="/Matthew-Carroll">Matthew Carroll</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ed-Borasky">Ed Borasky</a> and <a class="user" href="/Erbil-Karaman">Erbil Karaman</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2176"></div><ul><li>Do you have a product or service?</li><li>Will customers pay for your product or service?</li><li>Is the market large enough?</li></ul><br />Then you are successful. There is nothing &#039;lucky&quot; about building a product or service people will pay for.<br /><br />For a web application, the question are<br /><br /><ul><li>Do you have a viable way of obtaining users?(SEO, search advertising, display advertising, link exchange)</li><li>Do users use your product?</li><li>Can you monetize the users?</li><li>If you cannot monetize the users can you grow the company and flip it?</li></ul><br />You could build a very successful product, but unless you know or bring in people with the correct social connections, it is very unlikely the biz dev people at Google, AOL or Yahoo are going to buy your company or even know you exist.<br /><br />Social connections allow you to bring in the people you need, to raise capital and to entice prospective acquiring companies. Personal relationships matter much more than luck.<br /><br />There is no &quot;luck&quot; or &quot;risk&quot; in entrepreneurship, there is only uncertainty and reducing uncertainty at each step of the way is a critical factor in entrepreneurial success. You can reduce uncertainty by getting the product out ASAP and testing the market, instead of spending years on the products, get feedback and determine viability early on.<br /><br />However, some people are &quot;lucky&quot; in the sense that they succeed without knowing what they are doing. They do not have a systematic and repeatable process for entrepreneurship and product develop, but they were &quot;lucky&quot; enough to enter a large market at the right time (ex. Yahoo, which started as a link directory). Their initial success then attracted the resources they needed to build a successful business at scale.<br /><br />Luck consists of having the resources you need to be successful or being able to acquire those resources through your social network.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_lo8M2wa_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2177"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_MjhVOUc_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2178"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-big-a-factor-is-luck-in-startup-success/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_CRfO2fL_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2229"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2179"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_OE7W7Uh_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2289"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2317"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/How-big-a-factor-is-luck-in-startup-success/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2029"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_zgdXP7g_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2064"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2090"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2264"></span><a class="question_link" href="/In-a-new-startup-how-do-you-convince-a-non-founding-developer-that-1-or-2-is-a-good-deal" id="__w2_Z1kNDEK_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2265"></span>In a new startup, how do you convince a non-founding developer that 1% or 2% is a good deal?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2065"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_ZG3RRud_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_ZG3RRud_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2180"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_SAG3ZbV_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_SAG3ZbV_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_ZG3RRud_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_qZTCYxz_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_qZTCYxz_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_qZTCYxz_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_ZG3RRud_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2181"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">6</strong> votes</span> by <span id="__w2_XHbtSzZ_view_all"><a class="user" href="/Niclas-Darville">Niclas Darville</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a>, <a class="user" href="/Srdjan-Pejic">Srdjan Pejic</a>, </span> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_XHbtSzZ_view_all_link">(more)</a><span class="hidden" id="__w2_XHbtSzZ_all_phrases"><a class="user" href="/Niclas-Darville">Niclas Darville</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a>, <a class="user" href="/Srdjan-Pejic">Srdjan Pejic</a>, Anon User, <a class="user" href="/Jeff-McNeill">Jeff McNeill</a> and <a class="user" href="/Erbil-Karaman">Erbil Karaman</a></span></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2182"></div>You have to find gullible or stupid people. Tell them that you company will exit at 100 million in two years. Hope that they do not understand liquidation preferences.<br /><br />The best case scenario for employee stock options issued at a $0 strike price (this is pre-series A still ?), there is no liquidation preference and that they stay on for 4 years and company is flipped for 100 million. They get 500k after taxes (ignoring dilution!).<br /><br />Assume the company is flipped after 8 months for 70 million. The employee probably gets nothing because they are not past their vesting cliff; depending on how the acquisition is structured. Ooops!<br /><br />Most exits will be below 30 million USD and 1% of your company is probably worthless. About 40% of Series A companies will return 1x and return nothing to the employees after liquidation preferences. Another 30% of Series A companies will return 1-3x.<br /><br />A decade ago, stock options could have artificially low strike prices, but with 409A requirements for employee stock options, equity is almost worthless except for founders, VCs and executives.<br /><br />From a financial perspective, it is not rational for employees to join a post Series A company, for anything except a salary. In general, it is difficult to convince anyone who understands venture capital that the 1% is worth anything financially.<br /><br />You have to sell your company to employees on non-financial criteria. The people at your company and your relationship with the employee are a more important factor in recruiting than the financial compensation.<br /><br />When I am going after a key hire, I emphasize<br /><ul><li>Meeting and working with great people</li><li>Mentorship and learning the entrepreneurial process</li><li>Help starting their company when they leave</li><li>Building social relationships</li></ul><br />If you need a key hire, but can only give up 2% of the equity, you have to compensate them in other ways. If a hire is financially ambitious, 2% + salary is not satisfying or motivating unless you are aiming for a billion dollar exit. <br /><br />If they want to start their own company some day, you should offer to introduce them to investors, other entrepreneurs or to mentor them.<br /><br />The most important thing for yourself and your own success, is to the develop personal loyalty of competent people whose ambitions are aligned with yours.<br /><br />You will need to draw in talented people in order for your current company to succeed and these people become assets when you start your next company. Being about able to bring in 3-4 competent developers, project managers or a designer is a critical factor for execution in the seed stage.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_ZG3RRud_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2183"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_eXEDxiG_view_comment_link">3 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2184"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/In-a-new-startup-how-do-you-convince-a-non-founding-developer-that-1-or-2-is-a-good-deal/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_n8rJH2I_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2230"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2185"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_ZwFDR2t_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2290"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2318"><a name="comment182910"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_Du8XgXY_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Histrionics aside, 1-2% of a post series-A company is a seriously significant amount of equity. Constructing sceneries where it has no value is disingenuous. <br /><br />A typical options pool is 15-20%. We&#039;re talking about someone turning their nose up at 1/10th of all employee options for that tranche. If you show up after series A when a lot of risk has been taken away, you should have no expectation to be given the equity that people who took a greater leap of faith got.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Sameer-Al-Sakran">Sameer Al-Sakran</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_yzZeKbS_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2319"><a name="comment183657"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_aauHZzr_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">After IRS 409A, employees can no longer get stock at below market, so there is little financial upside for them.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_YAfsieW_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2320"><a name="comment183669"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_eIrL7Ei_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Unless you are joining a company on the path to +1b market cap, you should take salary or start your own company OR join a pre-series A startup.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; 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</span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2190"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Dave-McClure-1/Why-does-Dave-McClure-have-so-many-followers/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_LjMpYPG_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2231"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2191"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_nCW57T4_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2291"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2322"><a name="comment181821"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_YQcqJbF_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">aha.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Dave-McClure">Dave McClure</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_SLnNN9E_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2323"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Dave-McClure-1/Why-does-Dave-McClure-have-so-many-followers/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View 1 Comment</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2031"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_P9pE782_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2068"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2092"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2268"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Who-is-going-to-the-2011-Quora-Bay-Area-Active-User-Party" id="__w2_xjXQBBp_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2269"></span>Who is going to the 2011 Quora Bay Area Active User Party?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2069"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_sLAUuRs_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_sLAUuRs_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2192"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_fcNnsJ9_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_fcNnsJ9_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_sLAUuRs_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_k5a1Spb_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_k5a1Spb_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_k5a1Spb_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_sLAUuRs_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2193"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">13</strong> votes</span> by <span id="__w2_jNg0p5J_view_all"><a class="user" href="/Erik-Fair">Erik Fair</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a>, <a class="user" href="/Gene-Linetsky">Gene Linetsky</a>, </span> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_jNg0p5J_view_all_link">(more)</a><span class="hidden" id="__w2_jNg0p5J_all_phrases"><a class="user" href="/Erik-Fair">Erik Fair</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a>, <a class="user" href="/Gene-Linetsky">Gene Linetsky</a>, <a class="user" href="/Andrew-Brown-2">Andrew Brown</a>, <a class="user" href="/Peter-Clark">Peter Clark</a>, <a class="user" href="/Eunji-Choi">Eunji Choi</a>, <a class="user" href="/June-Lin">June Lin</a>, <a class="user" href="/Roderick-Chow">Roderick Chow</a>, <a class="user" href="/Antone-Johnson">Antone Johnson</a>, <a class="user" href="/Justin-Liu">Justin Liu</a>, <a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ohad-Samet">Ohad Samet</a> and <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a></span></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2194"></div>I am going.<br /><br />I need a ride from SFO to the hotel, a few blocks from the party.<br /><br />Update:<br /><br />I just walked to the community party venue and it is at a pub. Ug.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_sLAUuRs_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2195"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_SJpLpA2_view_comment_link">22 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2196"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Who-is-going-to-the-2011-Quora-Bay-Area-Active-User-Party/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_LT9Y9Bt_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2232"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2197"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_M9WLzjt_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2292"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2324"><a name="comment177943"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_NosmmgT_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Doesn&#039;t answer the question</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Gene-Linetsky">Gene Linetsky</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_iPUjggs_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2325"><a name="comment177969"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_pSOJmuX_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">This answer would be more helpful if it responded directly to the question.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Christopher-Lin">Christopher Lin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_TArB7Hu_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2326"><a name="comment178575"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_stBwUyv_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Stop being politically correct and just upvote my answers!</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_KwLnOge_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2327"><a name="comment178684"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_KqnM2pU_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">This response appears to be primarily self-promotional.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Xianhang-Zhang">Xianhang Zhang</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_OzRkdXP_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2328"><a name="comment179375"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_IpotPQT_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text"><span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Brandon-Smietana-1">Brandon Smietana</a></span>&#039;s answer is relevant, if not exhaustive ...</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Erik-Fair">Erik Fair</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_aO0SJ9e_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2329"><a name="comment183570"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_xDUiZyb_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Quora is English-only for now. <span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Why-are-answers-on-Quora-marked-as-Not-Helpful">Learn more.</a></span></p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Kevin-Moore-1">Kevin Moore</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_piJV5I0_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2330"><a name="comment185080"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_pwxU60i_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">I feel alienated.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_TzpKBd0_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2331"><a name="comment185705"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_inu0s7n_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Brandon, they&#039;re just fucking with you.<br /><br />I will be there too. See you there, buddy!</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_B7GgjZg_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2332"><a name="comment185708"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_FS3AV0F_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Oh and I&#039;m bringing Jane because for some reason they didn&#039;t send her an invite.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_ZQYX1ff_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2333"><a name="comment185732"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_jyShyAw_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">P.S. -- Four upvotes and yet you&#039;re a mere single down vote from being collapsed all together.<br /><br />The tribe has spoken!</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_PmkCwkm_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2334"><a name="comment187247"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_VxtTqbX_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">I lost the popularity contest ;)</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_JP8NVns_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2335"><a name="comment187435"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_gxNLyR8_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Actually, on Quora this is considered winning.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_wQhHInk_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2336"><a name="comment187456"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_Q3gqkuw_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Yeah, haters are the equivalent of an entourage.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_H5h8SWw_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2337"><a name="comment187457"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_qXDdy1Q_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">They are here. :)</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_N1oKBmk_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2338"><a name="comment190933"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_LwHlmlF_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">I have the most up-votes and my answer is the least ranked answer that is not collapsed anymore :)</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_sxZK7bh_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2339"><a name="comment200737"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_QOgvPEe_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Looking forward to meeting you guys and arguing with you in person for a change!</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_U3wWAF2_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2340"><a name="comment200924"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_QQtHNxt_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">I&#039;m getting the sense there&#039;s good material for a drinking game here. Something involving tequila shots and upvotes/downvotes.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Antone-Johnson">Antone Johnson</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_xDTr2Rr_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2341"><a name="comment200992"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_Zxz4IuH_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">I have to drive _back_ to Santa Cruz after the party, and that sounds deadly</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_t3NpY21_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2342"><a name="comment202631"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_v8Ybj9B_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">If you have started arguing me, you have already lost :)</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_fhy4oM6_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2343"><a name="comment207162"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_NFvfUfi_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Brandon, I may regret this, but I can probably pick you up at SFO.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_Ma6k9Kn_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2344"><a name="comment207452"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_G1zcyKJ_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Awesome. That would be great. I will PM you our travel itinerary when we finalize plans for the flight.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_aHVjdSV_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2345"><a name="comment230828"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_SwH4IcF_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text"><span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Brandon-Smietana-1">Brandon Smietana</a></span> is now at Garden Court hotel -- will enjoy Port before the fireplace at 7pm -- but will meet for early dining</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Lee-Weinberg">Lee Weinberg</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_QuHPQT0_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2346"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Who-is-going-to-the-2011-Quora-Bay-Area-Active-User-Party/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 22 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2032"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_LKQkOAY_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2070"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2093"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2270"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Does-Symbolic-Analytics-have-a-website-or-web-presence" id="__w2_JTNcGsJ_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2271"></span>Does Symbolic Analytics have a website or web presence?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2071"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_jyPEgDV_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_jyPEgDV_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2198"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_V7Q1Wlf_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_V7Q1Wlf_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_jyPEgDV_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_wEgqbKg_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_wEgqbKg_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_wEgqbKg_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_jyPEgDV_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2199"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">9</strong> votes</span> by <span id="__w2_vbdaJy3_view_all"><a class="user" href="/Charles-Krohn">Charles Krohn</a>, <a class="user" href="/John-Clover">John Clover</a>, <a class="user" href="/Prasanna-Narayanan">Prasanna Narayanan</a>, </span> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_vbdaJy3_view_all_link">(more)</a><span class="hidden" id="__w2_vbdaJy3_all_phrases"><a class="user" href="/Charles-Krohn">Charles Krohn</a>, <a class="user" href="/John-Clover">John Clover</a>, <a class="user" href="/Prasanna-Narayanan">Prasanna Narayanan</a>, <a class="user" href="/Prakash-Swaminathan">Prakash Swaminathan</a>, <a class="user" href="/Leon-Kitain">Leon Kitain</a>, <a class="user" href="/Arnav-Guleria">Arnav Guleria</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a>, <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a> and <a class="user" href="/Arto-Bendiken">Arto Bendiken</a></span></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2200"></div>No. Having a website is not very stealth.<br /><br />Symbolic Analytics is a semantic web startup, so the investors expect our website to be &quot;very Web 3.0&quot;.  <br /><br /><blockquote>People keep asking what Web 3.0 is. I think maybe when you&#039;ve got an overlay of scalable vector graphics - everything rippling and folding and looking misty — on Web 2.0 and access to a semantic Web...</blockquote><blockquote><br /></blockquote>– Tim Berners-Lee<br /><br />When the website goes public, it will be <i>very</i> cyberpunk; like the interface from Uplink, but with more etched circuit board logos. <br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-49b65518dbd0a38e2b2e1fd508635226" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-e8b52c3b46e330f2f7c5b373097e9a88" master_w="1024" master_h="768" /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-c496d3f31e6ffd7837fdd9a6990299c5" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-97038ad22f492ef29d962e3d0a6efbbe" master_w="640" master_h="480" /><br />The website is going to be so sexy that we could raise more bubble money than Path, without even needing a product or employees (&quot;its web 3.0&quot; and &quot;its in the cloud&quot; and &quot;its social&quot;). We are still trying to decide on the Symbolic Analytics website sound track.<br /><br />To &quot;set the mood&quot; for our investors, I need a picture of <span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Yishan-Wong-1">Yishan Wong</a></span> throwing IPO money into the air, which is falling towards the investors at Yishan Wong&#039;s feet.<br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-0160c1162ce36aa1ce94469105143f2a" /><br />However, I am still trying to poach <span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Yishan-Wong-1">Yishan Wong</a></span> from his rumor mill startup.<br /><br /><b>Note:</b><br /><br />I am joking about &quot;Web 3.0&quot;.<br /><br />Symbolic Analytics started as a computational chemistry startup. We were using machine learning and computational chemistry techniques to discovery highly selective metal ion binding ligands. However the company got out of control and started building mobile web applications and culminated with the creation of a massively multiplayer game based upon Minecraft and Nethack.<br /><br />We were very successful in mobile web applications but discovered that we would need 1.3 billion page views per day, to generate 10 million dollars/year on display advertising at 0.02 USD eCPM (Digg has 15 million a year in revenue, but has never been profitable!). So we pivoted into a market with a higher DARPA.<br /><br />I am now CTOing a location based services company in LA.<br /><br />The computational chemistry algorithms are still being worked on and I want to return to that area in the future.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_jyPEgDV_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2201"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_VJeZDEn_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2202"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Does-Symbolic-Analytics-have-a-website-or-web-presence/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_a5TJ4G5_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2233"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2203"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_NlrYent_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2293"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2347"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" 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href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a>, <a class="user" href="/Rajeev-Sharma">Rajeev Sharma</a>, <a class="user" href="/Sid-Burgess">Sid Burgess</a>, </span> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_YF1RToQ_view_all_link">(more)</a><span class="hidden" id="__w2_YF1RToQ_all_phrases"><a class="user" href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a>, <a class="user" href="/Rajeev-Sharma">Rajeev Sharma</a>, <a class="user" href="/Sid-Burgess">Sid Burgess</a>, <a class="user" href="/Richard-Ludlow">Richard Ludlow</a>, <a class="user" href="/Darryl-Collins">Darryl Collins</a>, <a class="user" href="/Marin-Dimitrov">Marin Dimitrov</a>, <a class="user" href="/Rick-Dudley">Rick Dudley</a>, <a class="user" href="/Anna-Santeramo">Anna Santeramo</a>, <a class="user" href="/Gavan-Woolery">Gavan Woolery</a>, <a class="user" href="/Joseph-Reisinger">Joseph Reisinger</a>, Anon User, <a class="user" href="/Pano-Anthos">Pano Anthos</a>, <a class="user" href="/Paul-Dufour">Paul Dufour</a>, 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/>Many of the most financially successful entrepeneurs were people who retained control of their company. When minority shareholders obtain control of your company, they have a financial incentive (even a fiduciary obligation, to their limited partners!) to act in ways that are not in the best interests of the common shareholder class.<br /><br />When an investor sits on your board, there is a conflict of interest between your investor&#039;s fiduciary obligation to their limited partners and their fiduciary obligations to the other classes of shareholders in the company. Not retaining control of your company can destroy much of financial upside of entrepreneurship.<br /><br /><b>1. Do not give up board control.</b><br /><br />Board control matters more than valuation. When you lose the ability to block unnecessary inside rounds, you will likely suffer unnecessary dilution. Investors want to put more money in the company when it is doing well, even if the company does not need the money.<br /><br /><b>2. Select truly independent directors.</b><br /><br />Part of successfully doing #1 is to select truly independent directors. Most &quot;independent&quot; directors are venture capitalist cronies and are not &quot;independent.&quot; They are rewarded financially, with additional board seats and with lucrative consulting positions, for siding with the investors. Choose someone who will give the company&#039;s management the benefit of the doubt, preferably your own industry allies or trusted advisors. Mark Zuckerberg&#039;s appointment of Marc Andreessen (who had long been a trusted advisor of his on the side) is an example of this.<br /><br />Too many companies have &quot;independent&quot; directors who come into board meetings and shrug their shoulders and say &quot;Its their money.&quot; Control in a company should reflect ownership stake and you should not compromise on a corporate governance structure which reflects the ownership of the company.<br /><br /><b>3. Study the board structure and financing of the following companies:</b><br /><br />Larry Ellison (Oracle)<br />Bill Gates (Microsoft)<br />Mark Pincus (Zynga) <br />Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook)<br />Michael Saylor (Microstrategy)<br />Sam Walton (Walmart)<br />Ross Perot (EDS)<br /><br />For the financing history and control issues of many of these companies read:<br /><br /><blockquote><b>How to be a Billionaire</b> <a href="http://amzn.to/dT3TWp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.t<wbr />o/dT3TWp</a><br /></blockquote><br />This book is very dry, but it has a very good set of case studies of successful entrepreneurs and their companies. It is important to understand the mechanisms through which lose of control can impair the financial benefits of entrepreneurship.<br /><br /><b>4. Become profitable as early as possible.</b><br /><br />This gives you leverage with respect to the terms of the investment. There have been entrepreneurs who have IPOed with over a 50% ownership stake in their company.<br /><br />Profitability gives you leverage. You can select investors who will bring more to the table than money. You can explain to your investors that you do not need their money and that you are doing them a favor by allowing them to invest and that if they do not like your terms, they are not the right investors (ex. Facebook).<br /><br /><b>5. Understand the legal agreements of the venture capital process</b><br /><br />Most entrepreneurs are financially naive. Many entrepreneurs and startup employees cannot read a cap-tables. Some entrepreneurs do not understand liquidation preferences and most do not understand the complex contractual provisions in financing agreements.<br /><br /><blockquote>&#039;an exit-value-dependent management carve-out to a participating liquidation preference reverting linearly above 3X return on top of a French legal requirement that the first 10% gets distributed to all shareholders equally?&#039;<br /></blockquote><br />You should try to regularly read <a href="http://venturehacks.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">venturehacks.com</a> and other venture capital legal blogs, in addition to retaining a very good lawyer.<br /><br />Also see: <b>Raising Venture Capital for the Serious Entrepreneur</b> <a href="http://amzn.to/dXzjif" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.<wbr />to/dXzjif</a><br /><br />This is a textbook for a business school course about venture capital.  It has 5 stars on Amazon for 22 out of 23 reviews.  It is a really good book.<br /><br /><b>6. Do due diligence on your investors</b><br /><br />Most entrepreneurs fail to do due diligence on their investors. Understand who you are entering in a business arrangement with. Get references from the VC for executives in both his successful and failed portfolio companies.<br /><br />Talk to the founders who were kicked out of the company. Look up the VC at <a href="http://TheFunded.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">TheFunded.com</a><br /><br />Try to find out how your investors will respond if your company performs well and how they will respond when a crisis occurs.  Do the investors have a history of opportunistically delaying financing or legally or physically threatening the family of the Independent director to influence voting outcomes?<br /><br />You do not want a backstabbing sociopath on your board of directors.<br /><br /><b>7. Choose an industry with lower capital requirements.</b><br /><br />Software is 100% margin and it is easy to bootstrap compared to a capital intensive industry such as retail or biotech.<br /><br />However, even in capital intensive industries, we have seen very successful companies that were essentially bootstrapped. Walmart is very capital intensive and yet Walton built Walmart without venture capital, selling equity or giving up control of the company. Walton borrowed money against the future cash flow of the company to finance growth and then used the IPO to pay off this debt.<br /><br /><b>8. Create a dual-class ownership structure.</b><br /><br />Google and most media companies have a B-class of shares that have 10 votes to each vote of the common shares. This insures that even if the founder or mogul only retain 5% of the equity in the company, they still retain voting control.<br /><br /><b>9. Be in a position to fire the CEO and management if necessary</b><br /><br />You may eventually have to bring in professional management (such as an outside CEO). By controlling the board and having a majority in votes, you are in a position to fire the CEO. This allows you to hold the CEO accountable. This was the position Eric Schmidt was in at Google.<br /><br /><b>10. Bid investors against each other to create leverage</b><br /><br />If you are going to take on venture capital, bid firms against each other and use your leverage to remove control provisions. If investors want to put in more money than you need or want, use that as leverage to loosen board control and protective provisions.<br /><br />See: <span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Google-Inc-company/What-were-the-4-or-5-key-decisions-that-Larry-Page-and-Sergey-Brin-made-in-the-early-days-of-Google/answer/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana&#039;s answer to Google Inc. (company): What were the 4 or 5 key decisions that Larry Page and Sergey Brin made in the early days of Google?</a></span><b><br /></b><br /><b>11. Choose your investors very carefully</b>.<br /><br />Only let your friends and people you trust invest. If you are going to give up control, give it to people who will collude with you against outside interests. This strategy worked very well for Mark Pincus when he founded Zynga.<br /><br /><b>12. Look at alternate classes of investors, who are not looking to actively manage the company.</b><br /><br />Hedge funds, pension funds, and UHNWIs sometimes make direct private equity investments. Leverage your social network. If you are in a position to achieve liquidity through a secondary market within a few years, your company may be appealing to these groups and you will give up much less control<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_C40EOcQ_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2207"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_LMqXqUX_view_comment_link">6 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2208"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Venture-Capital/How-can-I-prevent-shareholders-from-taking-over-my-startup/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_H1Gqh8g_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2234"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2209"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_kVIM5lv_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2294"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2348"><a name="comment157478"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_V0QVgGM_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Thanks for the edits, <span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Yishan-Wong">Yishan Wong</a></span>!</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_iBAB9gb_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2349"><a name="comment157712"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_rGaOAZQ_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">&quot;<b>5. Create a dual-class ownership structure.&quot;</b><br /><b>How do you do this exactly? What would you have to give up in exchange for this? And what kind of traction/leverage would you need? Thanks</b></p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Vivek-Ponnaiyan">Vivek Ponnaiyan</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_ArPyaij_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2350"><a name="comment157787"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_rEuxAvG_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Brandon -- Many points well taken. In formulating my answer, I considered listing a few of the items above (2-classes of stock, a Voting Agreement regarding Board nominations, etc.), but decided not to since the times when entrepreneurs who need capital have the amount of leverage necessary to get these controls are so few are far between that I would have thought such an answer would do a disservice to the asker and the Quora community&#039;s aspiring startup founders. Nonetheless, I will add them now in order to make this very point.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Lee-Weinberg">Lee Weinberg</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_otfWH1P_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2351"><a name="comment157805"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_IeKp7bD_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">That is true.<br /><br />The dual class share structure is something many people forget about, but if you want to start a company and retain control past the IPO <br />(after the preferred have converted to common), while rapidly acquiring smaller companies; then it is important. You see this in media companies. For most startups, it should not matter very much.<br /><br />Dual class structures can be useful for ensuring that the CEO is acceptable to both the board and to the founders. Such as by giving founders control of common voting through a dual-class and giving the investors a 2+2+1 board and requiring approval from both board and majority of common, for major actions.<br /><br />This can balance the power between the investors and founders. The founders may want to abandon control of the day to day operations of the company to a professional CEO, but may not want to give up complete control and still be in a position to fire the CEO or hold them accountable (requiring common approval for financings, M&amp;A, etc...)<br /><br />This is more of a &quot;founders get veto power over certain actions&quot; situation. So a dual-class structure can be very reasonable under certain circumstances.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_b3mh00O_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2352"><a name="comment158153"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_IZYIyAB_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Thanks a million for this; this is going into my bookmarks and start-up emergency kit.<br /><br />I initially submitted your comment to Hacker News, but knowing your previous history with being submitted on the site, I decided to delete the submission as a service. :)</p><p class="action_bar">Anon User<span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_UE4qtFs_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2353"><a name="comment158179"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_xCAEcGY_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Please resubmit to hackernews!</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_vfvLOnU_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2354"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Venture-Capital/How-can-I-prevent-shareholders-from-taking-over-my-startup/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 6 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_7iQPcN_2034"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_p5ROfoq_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2074"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2095"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2274"></span><a class="question_link" href="/As-a-Silicon-Valley-engineer-visiting-LA-for-the-first-time-what-are-the-best-places-to-visit-to-hook-up-with-a-hottie" id="__w2_XFuaa1P_link"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2275"></span>As a Silicon Valley engineer visiting LA for the first time, what are the best places to visit to hook up with a hottie?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2075"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_bRJEaMC_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_bRJEaMC_answer_voting"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2210"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_Lyh41tk_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_Lyh41tk_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_bRJEaMC_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_mJw7zWa_link"><span class="rep">N/A</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_mJw7zWa_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_mJw7zWa_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_bRJEaMC_answer_voters"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2211"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Joseph-Turian">Joseph Turian</a> and <a class="user" href="/Henry-Flower">Henry Flower</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2212"></div>Public parties are horrible The male to female ratio is 5 to 1 and the women are sub-standard.<br /><br />Go meet people who do film. There are many actors who have attractive actor friends who do not have a lot of money. They like perks like housing, being taken out for food, movies and being taken to parties. They also cannot afford cars and appreciate someone with a car.<br /><br />One girl I met said &quot;My friends cannot come because they cannot afford the door price&quot;. Offer to pay the cover for your actor friend&#039;s female friends. Engineers make 60-75 $/hour and a $20-100 cover for 3-4 women is very cheap for showing up to a part with a small group of attractive women.<br /><br />This way, even if you go to a public party, you will have attractive women to dance with. Since you know them and will be talking/dancing with them, it also increases your visibility and desirability with other women and people want to know who you are.<br /><br />You will rapidly be invited to high quality parties and raves, if you are known to bring attractive women with you. Navigating the social network and finding the hubs is more important than where you hang out in particular.<br /><br />You dont need social skills, you need money and a good grasp graph theory.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_bRJEaMC_answer_actions"><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2213"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_RPvO710_view_comment_link">1 Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2214"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/As-a-Silicon-Valley-engineer-visiting-LA-for-the-first-time-what-are-the-best-places-to-visit-to-hook-up-with-a-hottie/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_adUyqwr_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2235"></span></span></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2215"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_EDEZTf0_answer_comments"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2295"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2355"><a name="comment196621"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_qsQBzUL_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Have you or your friends done this ?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Bill-McDonald">Bill McDonald</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_eek1P8A_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><span id="ld_7iQPcN_2356"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/As-a-Silicon-Valley-engineer-visiting-LA-for-the-first-time-what-are-the-best-places-to-visit-to-hook-up-with-a-hottie/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View 1 Comment</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2035"><div class="hidden" id="__w2_jCjmMFi_loading"><span class="__wn2_loading"><span class="__wn2_loading_spinner"></span><span class="__wn2_loading_text">Loading...</span></span></div><div class="pager_next action_button" id="__w2_jCjmMFi_more">More</div></div></div></div></div><div class="e_col w2_5 side_col"><div class="row"><div class="e_col w1 p1"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_1995"><div class="profile_photo"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_1998"><a href="/Brandon-Smietana"><img class="profile_photo_img" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-thumb-6673-100-iQY07uHy4EIxliIOKB2oVtdnn7FsdmZc.jpeg" width="100" alt="Brandon Smietana" height="100" /></a></div></div></div></div><div class="e_col w1_5 side_col p1"><div class="light page_opts row"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_1996"><ul class="action_list"></ul></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_1997"><div class="row p1"><div class="col mini_count first"><a href="/Brandon-Smietana/followers"><strong>693</strong><br />Followers</a></div><div class="col mini_count "><a href="/Brandon-Smietana/following"><strong>332</strong><br />Following</a></div><div class="col mini_count "><a href="/Brandon-Smietana/mentions"><strong>31</strong><br />@Mentions</a></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_1993"><div class="row section p1" id="answers"><strong>Recent Top Answers</strong><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2000"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">49</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Venture-Capital/How-can-I-prevent-shareholders-from-taking-over-my-startup/answer/Brandon-Smietana">How can I prevent shareholders from taking over my startup?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_yV3my44_truncated"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2005"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>Most of these answers do not answer the question. <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_ohLoAbW_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_yV3my44_expanded"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2006">Most of these answers do not answer the question.<br /><br />Many of the most financially successful entrepeneurs were people who retained control of their company. When minority shareholders obtain control of your company, they have a financial incentive (even a fiduciary obligation, to their limited partners!) to act in ways that are not in the best interests of the common shareholder class.<br /><br />When an investor sits on your board, there is a conflict of interest between your investor&#039;s fiduciary obligation to their limited partners and their fiduciary obligations to the other classes of shareholders in the company. Not retaining control of your company can destroy much of financial upside of entrepreneurship.<br /><br /><b>1. Do not give up board control.</b><br /><br />Board control matters more than valuation. When you lose the ability to block unnecessary inside rounds, you will likely suffer unnecessary dilution. Investors want to put more money in the company when it is doing well, even if the company does not need the money.<br /><br /><b>2. Select truly independent directors.</b><br /><br />Part of successfully doing #1 is to select truly independent directors. Most &quot;independent&quot; directors are venture capitalist cronies and are not &quot;independent.&quot; They are rewarded financially, with additional board seats and with lucrative consulting positions, for siding with the investors. Choose someone who will give the company&#039;s management the benefit of the doubt, preferably your own industry allies or trusted advisors. Mark Zuckerberg&#039;s appointment of Marc Andreessen (who had long been a trusted advisor of his on the side) is an example of this.<br /><br />Too many companies have &quot;independent&quot; directors who come into board meetings and shrug their shoulders and say &quot;Its their money.&quot; Control in a company should reflect ownership stake and you should not compromise on a corporate governance structure which reflects the ownership of the company.<br /><br /><b>3. Study the board structure and financing of the following companies:</b><br /><br />Larry Ellison (Oracle)<br />Bill Gates (Microsoft)<br />Mark Pincus (Zynga) <br />Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook)<br />Michael Saylor (Microstrategy)<br />Sam Walton (Walmart)<br />Ross Perot (EDS)<br /><br />For the financing history and control issues of many of these companies read:<br /><br /><blockquote><b>How to be a Billionaire</b> <a href="http://amzn.to/dT3TWp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.t<wbr />o/dT3TWp</a><br /></blockquote><br />This book is very dry, but it has a very good set of case studies of successful entrepreneurs and their companies. It is important to understand the mechanisms through which lose of control can impair the financial benefits of entrepreneurship.<br /><br /><b>4. Become profitable as early as possible.</b><br /><br />This gives you leverage with respect to the terms of the investment. There have been entrepreneurs who have IPOed with over a 50% ownership stake in their company.<br /><br />Profitability gives you leverage. You can select investors who will bring more to the table than money. You can explain to your investors that you do not need their money and that you are doing them a favor by allowing them to invest and that if they do not like your terms, they are not the right investors (ex. Facebook).<br /><br /><b>5. Understand the legal agreements of the venture capital process</b><br /><br />Most entrepreneurs are financially naive. Many entrepreneurs and startup employees cannot read a cap-tables. Some entrepreneurs do not understand liquidation preferences and most do not understand the complex contractual provisions in financing agreements.<br /><br /><blockquote>&#039;an exit-value-dependent management carve-out to a participating liquidation preference reverting linearly above 3X return on top of a French legal requirement that the first 10% gets distributed to all shareholders equally?&#039;<br /></blockquote><br />You should try to regularly read <a href="http://venturehacks.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">venturehacks.com</a> and other venture capital legal blogs, in addition to retaining a very good lawyer.<br /><br />Also see: <b>Raising Venture Capital for the Serious Entrepreneur</b> <a href="http://amzn.to/dXzjif" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.<wbr />to/dXzjif</a><br /><br />This is a textbook for a business school course about venture capital.  It has 5 stars on Amazon for 22 out of 23 reviews.  It is a really good book.<br /><br /><b>6. Do due diligence on your investors</b><br /><br />Most entrepreneurs fail to do due diligence on their investors. Understand who you are entering in a business arrangement with. Get references from the VC for executives in both his successful and failed portfolio companies.<br /><br />Talk to the founders who were kicked out of the company. Look up the VC at <a href="http://TheFunded.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">TheFunded.com</a><br /><br />Try to find out how your investors will respond if your company performs well and how they will respond when a crisis occurs.  Do the investors have a history of opportunistically delaying financing or legally or physically threatening the family of the Independent director to influence voting outcomes?<br /><br />You do not want a backstabbing sociopath on your board of directors.<br /><br /><b>7. Choose an industry with lower capital requirements.</b><br /><br />Software is 100% margin and it is easy to bootstrap compared to a capital intensive industry such as retail or biotech.<br /><br />However, even in capital intensive industries, we have seen very successful companies that were essentially bootstrapped. Walmart is very capital intensive and yet Walton built Walmart without venture capital, selling equity or giving up control of the company. Walton borrowed money against the future cash flow of the company to finance growth and then used the IPO to pay off this debt.<br /><br /><b>8. Create a dual-class ownership structure.</b><br /><br />Google and most media companies have a B-class of shares that have 10 votes to each vote of the common shares. This insures that even if the founder or mogul only retain 5% of the equity in the company, they still retain voting control.<br /><br /><b>9. Be in a position to fire the CEO and management if necessary</b><br /><br />You may eventually have to bring in professional management (such as an outside CEO). By controlling the board and having a majority in votes, you are in a position to fire the CEO. This allows you to hold the CEO accountable. This was the position Eric Schmidt was in at Google.<br /><br /><b>10. Bid investors against each other to create leverage</b><br /><br />If you are going to take on venture capital, bid firms against each other and use your leverage to remove control provisions. If investors want to put in more money than you need or want, use that as leverage to loosen board control and protective provisions.<br /><br />See: <span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Google-Inc-company/What-were-the-4-or-5-key-decisions-that-Larry-Page-and-Sergey-Brin-made-in-the-early-days-of-Google/answer/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana&#039;s answer to Google Inc. (company): What were the 4 or 5 key decisions that Larry Page and Sergey Brin made in the early days of Google?</a></span><b><br /></b><br /><b>11. Choose your investors very carefully</b>.<br /><br />Only let your friends and people you trust invest. If you are going to give up control, give it to people who will collude with you against outside interests. This strategy worked very well for Mark Pincus when he founded Zynga.<br /><br /><b>12. Look at alternate classes of investors, who are not looking to actively manage the company.</b><br /><br />Hedge funds, pension funds, and UHNWIs sometimes make direct private equity investments. Leverage your social network. If you are in a position to achieve liquidity through a secondary market within a few years, your company may be appealing to these groups and you will give up much less control</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2001"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">12</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Startup-Ideas/How-can-someone-get-help-to-develop-ideas-for-an-online-business-without-having-the-ideas-stolen/answer/Brandon-Smietana">How can someone get help to develop ideas for an online business without having the ideas stolen?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_kBIbJv7_truncated"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2007"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-9acf4dc347d503197f5a10af764484c1" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-ba5e4d3696fb347eb3b1ae3e0d81c378" master_w="514" master_h="315" /></div>I have a person a month email me a question like this. I just walked by a homeless man with a sign that read: &quot;Looking for technical co-founder&quot;. <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_FCGTzDf_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_kBIbJv7_expanded"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2008">I have a person a month email me a question like this. I just walked by a homeless man with a sign that read: &quot;Looking for technical co-founder&quot;.<br /><br /><b>So You Want to Start a Web Startup: </b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6gZ4vk_Tw4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.youtu<wbr />be.com/watch?v=u...</a><br /><b><br /></b>&quot;I have a brilliant idea and I want you to implement it for free! However, I cannot tell you the idea, because I am afraid that you will steal it.&quot;<br /><br /> <span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Yishan-Wong-1">Yishan Wong</a></span> tells me I should tell them &quot;Kid, don&#039;t delude yourself, you&#039;d be lucky to be Eduardo Saverin.&quot;<br /><br />The following conversation is real!<br /><br /><b>Person: </b>&quot;you are asking lots of questions and we have no NDA&quot;<br /><br /><b>Me:</b> Are you afraid that I am going to clone your 25,000 lines of LISP before New Years, raise 3 million at a 15 million valuation, hire 30 engineers and bury you?<br /><br />I like to remind people, that if their idea is so great and I decide to clone it, the NDA wont protect them against the &quot;ravenous free market forces&quot; that result when I launch a competitor. I like to scare some sense into these people by bragging about my &quot;army&quot; of &quot;rockstar&quot; Python, Lisp, Ruby and Haskell engineers.<br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-9acf4dc347d503197f5a10af764484c1" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-ba5e4d3696fb347eb3b1ae3e0d81c378" master_w="514" master_h="315" /><br /><b>Non-technical Person:</b> &quot;Do you have rock star developers?&quot;<br /><br /><b>Me: </b>&quot;You can tell rock star developers apart from mere 25x engineers because rock stars have groupies. Do your rails developers have groupies?&quot; <br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-16558f9d1b9a90a1d8fcff74eff2fa69" /><br />The other favorite thing someone has said to me is,<br /><br />&quot;Build my company and my product and I will give you 15% of the equity!&quot;<br /><br />I always tell these people, &quot;<b>God helps those who help themselves</b>&quot;, which means &quot;<b>Start learning PHP</b>&quot;.<br /><br />Ideas are worthless -- execution is everything.</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2002"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">10</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Does-Symbolic-Analytics-have-a-website-or-web-presence/answer/Brandon-Smietana">Does Symbolic Analytics have a website or web presence?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_GoeDx34_truncated"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2009"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-49b65518dbd0a38e2b2e1fd508635226" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-e8b52c3b46e330f2f7c5b373097e9a88" master_w="1024" master_h="768" /></div>No. Having a website is not very stealth. <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_LLFbCZS_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_GoeDx34_expanded"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2010">No. Having a website is not very stealth.<br /><br />Symbolic Analytics is a semantic web startup, so the investors expect our website to be &quot;very Web 3.0&quot;.  <br /><br /><blockquote>People keep asking what Web 3.0 is. I think maybe when you&#039;ve got an overlay of scalable vector graphics - everything rippling and folding and looking misty — on Web 2.0 and access to a semantic Web...</blockquote><blockquote><br /></blockquote>– Tim Berners-Lee<br /><br />When the website goes public, it will be <i>very</i> cyberpunk; like the interface from Uplink, but with more etched circuit board logos. <br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-49b65518dbd0a38e2b2e1fd508635226" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-e8b52c3b46e330f2f7c5b373097e9a88" master_w="1024" master_h="768" /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-c496d3f31e6ffd7837fdd9a6990299c5" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-97038ad22f492ef29d962e3d0a6efbbe" master_w="640" master_h="480" /><br />The website is going to be so sexy that we could raise more bubble money than Path, without even needing a product or employees (&quot;its web 3.0&quot; and &quot;its in the cloud&quot; and &quot;its social&quot;). We are still trying to decide on the Symbolic Analytics website sound track.<br /><br />To &quot;set the mood&quot; for our investors, I need a picture of <span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Yishan-Wong-1">Yishan Wong</a></span> throwing IPO money into the air, which is falling towards the investors at Yishan Wong&#039;s feet.<br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-0160c1162ce36aa1ce94469105143f2a" /><br />However, I am still trying to poach <span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Yishan-Wong-1">Yishan Wong</a></span> from his rumor mill startup.<br /><br /><b>Note:</b><br /><br />I am joking about &quot;Web 3.0&quot;.<br /><br />Symbolic Analytics started as a computational chemistry startup. We were using machine learning and computational chemistry techniques to discovery highly selective metal ion binding ligands. However the company got out of control and started building mobile web applications and culminated with the creation of a massively multiplayer game based upon Minecraft and Nethack.<br /><br />We were very successful in mobile web applications but discovered that we would need 1.3 billion page views per day, to generate 10 million dollars/year on display advertising at 0.02 USD eCPM (Digg has 15 million a year in revenue, but has never been profitable!). So we pivoted into a market with a higher DARPA.<br /><br />I am now CTOing a location based services company in LA.<br /><br />The computational chemistry algorithms are still being worked on and I want to return to that area in the future.</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2003"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">14</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Who-is-going-to-the-2011-Quora-Bay-Area-Active-User-Party/answer/Brandon-Smietana">Who is going to the 2011 Quora Bay Area Active User Party?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_UMYAu28_truncated"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2011"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>I am going. <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_Td3MXQ9_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_UMYAu28_expanded"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2012">I am going.<br /><br />I need a ride from SFO to the hotel, a few blocks from the party.<br /><br />Update:<br /><br />I just walked to the community party venue and it is at a pub. Ug.</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2004"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">7</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/In-a-new-startup-how-do-you-convince-a-non-founding-developer-that-1-or-2-is-a-good-deal/answer/Brandon-Smietana">In a new startup, how do you convince a non-founding developer that 1% or 2% is a good deal?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_GLAo1hX_truncated"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2013"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>You have to find gullible or stupid people. Tell them that you company will exit at 100 million in two years. Hope that they do not understand li... <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_gTQZZ3R_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_GLAo1hX_expanded"><div id="ld_7iQPcN_2014">You have to find gullible or stupid people. Tell them that you company will exit at 100 million in two years. Hope that they do not understand liquidation preferences.<br /><br />The best case scenario for employee stock options issued at a $0 strike price (this is pre-series A still ?), there is no liquidation preference and that they stay on for 4 years and company is flipped for 100 million. They get 500k after taxes (ignoring dilution!).<br /><br />Assume the company is flipped after 8 months for 70 million. The employee probably gets nothing because they are not past their vesting cliff; depending on how the acquisition is structured. Ooops!<br /><br />Most exits will be below 30 million USD and 1% of your company is probably worthless. About 40% of Series A companies will return 1x and return nothing to the employees after liquidation preferences. Another 30% of Series A companies will return 1-3x.<br /><br />A decade ago, stock options could have artificially low strike prices, but with 409A requirements for employee stock options, equity is almost worthless except for founders, VCs and executives.<br /><br />From a financial perspective, it is not rational for employees to join a post Series A company, for anything except a salary. In general, it is difficult to convince anyone who understands venture capital that the 1% is worth anything financially.<br /><br />You have to sell your company to employees on non-financial criteria. The people at your company and your relationship with the employee are a more important factor in recruiting than the financial compensation.<br /><br />When I am going after a key hire, I emphasize<br /><ul><li>Meeting and working with great people</li><li>Mentorship and learning the entrepreneurial process</li><li>Help starting their company when they leave</li><li>Building social relationships</li></ul><br />If you need a key hire, but can only give up 2% of the equity, you have to compensate them in other ways. If a hire is financially ambitious, 2% + salary is not satisfying or motivating unless you are aiming for a billion dollar exit. <br /><br />If they want to start their own company some day, you should offer to introduce them to investors, other entrepreneurs or to mentor them.<br /><br />The most important thing for yourself and your own success, is to the develop personal loyalty of competent people whose ambitions are aligned with yours.<br /><br />You will need to draw in talented people in order for your current company to succeed and these people become assets when you start your next company. 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 </b>Taking on VC increases mean exit time, increases the failure rate of portfolio companies and increases risk to angel investors.<br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-ce50f79755383b1d2b2f38a2fc0e8724" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-d2e6292b29a0dca45525b3d8f1d0e438" master_w="500" master_h="375" /><br />See: <span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Brandon-Smietana/Angel-Investing/Graph-Time-From-VC-Financing-to-an-M-A-Exit">Graph: Time From VC Financing to an M&amp;A Exit</a></span><br /><br />See: Exits with VC and Angel Investors - The Wiltbank Data <a href="http://www.angelblog.net/Exits_with_VC_and_Angel_Investors.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.angelblog.net/<wbr />Exits_w...</a><br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-69a80115a37559b089a70c5576dca5f7" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-a190cbeebabbf3c62fa98ce6c534f446" master_w="500" master_h="375" /><br />Many angels prefer quick, early exits. They like to get their money back. Having your capital tied up for another decade, to achieve only a few percentage points higher returns is not attractive to most angels.<br /><br />Also, angels suffer dilution in additional financing rounds; which are getting larger.<br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-adf74678f356e4eb9eb471d7a6c02595" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-78b15b8626e7b07fc048cd202701bb9e" master_w="500" master_h="375" /><br />VCs do not want to &quot;hear about exits&quot; because the median exit for a VC company is now a decade into the future after the round closes.<br /><br />Therefore angels should have a preference for investing in companies that can undergo and M&amp;A or become profitable, without VC. However, many investors do not have data or experience needed to understand how requiring VC can affect returns and the period that capital is held up in the investment.<br /><br />Many angel investors have suffered in previous companies when VC investors come in. Convertible debt caps are renegotiated and minority shareholders are often treated adversely by institutional investors. Taking on VC also tends to increase the time to exit.<br /><br />Many angels add value early in the company; by bringing in customers, helping to recruit employees, financing early expenses and giving feedback on the product. Then after the institutional investors come in, they sometimes say &quot;These minority investors are no longer &#039;adding value&#039;&quot; and the minority investors are treated badly in subsequent financing rounds. For instance, by being stripped of their participation rights in subsequent rounds.<br /><br />Early stage PE investors do not make money by generating 30% returns on each investment. Early stage VCs need to invest in companies that can &quot;return the fund&quot;. This means they would rather see a company fail with 80% probability and 20% chance of returning the fund, rather than see an early exit at less than 3x returns.<br /><br />Companies that defer profitability or exit until the VC stage entails an additional layer of risk, beyond the high failure rate of pre-series A companies.<br /><br />For instance, VC funding heightens the risk of down rounds that may wipe out minority shareholders and founders. Many of the highest returns in the VC asset class were generated by companies that went through &quot;washout&quot; rounds.<br /><br />So in general, angels should prefer to make investments in companies that do not require VC to achieve profitability or an exit. In practice, this may not be true however because not all angels are making rational investment decisions which are informed by analysis of the exit data,<br /><br />For more information, see<br /><br /><b>Early Exits: Exit Strategies for Entrepreneurs and Angel Investors </b><u><a href="http://amzn.to/eMqrJE" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.to/<wbr />eMqrJE</a></u><div class="action_bar" id="__w2_zzhFO23_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_947"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_Un1QT0F_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_948"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Is-it-ok-to-say-you-want-to-go-from-seed-to-exit-when-raising-an-angel-round/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_rxMtXOY_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1064"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_949"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_ZLpA9HN_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1124"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1144"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Is-it-ok-to-say-you-want-to-go-from-seed-to-exit-when-raising-an-angel-round/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_864"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_tjbWi3z_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_886"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_925"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1086"></span><a class="question_link" href="/What-should-I-do-if-my-assessment-of-the-most-successful-person-in-my-profession-leaves-me-unimpressed" id="__w2_kJREjKy_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1087"></span>What should I do if my assessment of the most successful person in my profession leaves me unimpressed?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_887"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_um0f758_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_um0f758_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_950"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_cwPfmJz_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_cwPfmJz_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_cwPfmJz_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_um0f758_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_um0f758_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_vaDC3Ag_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_vaDC3Ag_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_vaDC3Ag_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_um0f758_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_951"></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_952"></div>Lower your expectations.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_um0f758_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_953"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_Xs89Xlo_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_954"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/What-should-I-do-if-my-assessment-of-the-most-successful-person-in-my-profession-leaves-me-unimpressed/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_C2iSzqG_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1065"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_955"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_gS1tu9w_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1125"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1145"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/What-should-I-do-if-my-assessment-of-the-most-successful-person-in-my-profession-leaves-me-unimpressed/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View 1 Comment</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_865"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_pJ7kmmd_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_888"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_926"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1088"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Success/If-I-havent-succeeded-in-my-mid-20s-could-I-be-successful-in-the-rest-of-my-life" id="__w2_YI1bRp4_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1089"><span class="best_source_icon" id="__w2_BU48FJt_icon"></span></span>If I haven&#039;t succeeded in my mid 20s, could I be successful in the rest of my life?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_889"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_FGBxMmA_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_FGBxMmA_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_956"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_P90Lswm_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_P90Lswm_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_P90Lswm_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_FGBxMmA_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_FGBxMmA_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_Bwbd2VI_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_Bwbd2VI_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_Bwbd2VI_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_FGBxMmA_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_957"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">55</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Robert-Boyd">Robert Boyd</a>, <a class="user" href="/Vladimir-Dimitroff">Vladimir Dimitroff</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a>, <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_QWTu7tp_view_all_link">(more)</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_958"></div>Net worth at age 28 has only a slight correlation of 0.13 with your net worth at 33-41.<br /><br />Many entrepreneurs do not achieve an exit until they are in mid thirties to late forties.The percentage of people who succeed before they are 35 is very low. People in their early thirties tend to be on their third or fourth company and still have not achieved an exit yet.<br /><br />Also, many people who &quot;Succeed&quot; early on seem to spend all their money and are not successful at 30. Many people have flipped web-applications for 1 to 3 million in their early 20s and most of them do not know how to invest. Many people live above their level of income and end up spending the money by the time they are 30. The natural tendency of most Americans is towards debt (negative savings rate).<br /><br />Most of the people I have met who were successful in their 20s, were unsuccessful by the time they were in their thirties. This may constitute the majority of people who are &quot;successful&quot; in their 20s, although I am sure there are exceptions.<br /><br />One person built a successful social game and started to make several hundred thousand dollars a year overnight. However, instead of focusing on what made him successful, he was buying cars and traveling and his competitors annihilated his company and he lost his revenue source.<br /><br />Financial success begets laziness. Laziness begets failure. It is the virtuous cycle.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_FGBxMmA_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_959"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_hX4wNtK_view_comment_link">5 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_960"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Success/If-I-havent-succeeded-in-my-mid-20s-could-I-be-successful-in-the-rest-of-my-life/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_mKUTOAJ_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1066"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_961"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_pAx0Gtp_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1126"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1146"><a name="comment288120"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_BvMGoFI_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Colonel Sanders didn&#039;t start the first KFC franchise until he was 65. (Note: I do not recommend chicken as a path to riches).</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_WyLq0GW_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1147"><a name="comment288250"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_NCiU1FE_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">why not?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Andrew-Cheung">Andrew Cheung</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_CB3YtbE_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1148"><a name="comment288668"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_VQlWdgW_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">&quot;Net worth at age 28 has only a slight correlation of 0.13 with your net worth at 33-41.&quot; Where did you get this data?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Harjeet-Taggar">Harjeet Taggar</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_UKCykh2_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1149"><a name="comment288690"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_TxgvAKs_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Harjeet, I was quoting a tweet I made earlier <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/RKHilbertSpace/status/44241111920807936" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://twitter.com/#!/RKH<wbr />ilbertS...</a><br /><br />The source of the stats is Zagorsky, J. L. Do you have to be smart to be rich? The impact of IQ on wealth, income and financial distress. Intelligence (2007), doi:10.1016/j.intell.2007<wbr />.02.003<br /><br />More information here, <a href="http://b.qr.ae/dUWNis" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://b.qr.ae/dUWNis</a></p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_gughoX7_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1150"><a name="comment289469"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_CCO0IgM_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Good answer Brandon. You just described my entire life thus far. I&#039;m 31 &amp; on my 4th business. The last biz was exceedingly profitable at one point, that is until I blew the cash and became reckless with both my personal and business&#039; finances. <br /><br />Now I&#039;m starting from scratch, no exit strategy for the foreseeable future, but all the desire and ambition I had when I was 18 in my college dorm room pondering on how to be a millionaire by 30.<br /><br />Good insight...</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Geoffrey-Hull">Geoffrey Hull</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_K0XcYEJ_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><span id="ld_OtEogM_1151"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Success/If-I-havent-succeeded-in-my-mid-20s-could-I-be-successful-in-the-rest-of-my-life/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 6 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_866"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_nTC9aTR_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_890"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_927"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1090"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-can-I-avoid-copying-a-software-patent-by-accident" id="__w2_OoIFIoT_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1091"></span>How can I avoid copying a software patent by accident?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_891"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_xp2xT6D_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_xp2xT6D_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_962"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_vJ9j0hz_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_vJ9j0hz_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_vJ9j0hz_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_xp2xT6D_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_xp2xT6D_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_Jv0UVv0_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_Jv0UVv0_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_Jv0UVv0_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_xp2xT6D_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_963"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">5</strong> votes</span> by <span id="__w2_gqzARt6_view_all"><a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a>, <a class="user" href="/Will-Richardson">Will Richardson</a>, Anon User, </span> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_gqzARt6_view_all_link">(more)</a><span class="hidden" id="__w2_gqzARt6_all_phrases"><a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a>, <a class="user" href="/Will-Richardson">Will Richardson</a>, Anon User, <a class="user" href="/Dawn-Teo">Dawn Teo</a> and <a class="user" href="/Justin-Musa">Justin Musa</a></span></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_964"></div>Impossible. Everything in software is patented.<br /><br />Do you used linked lists? Well someone patented that in 2006<br /><br /><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=Szh4AAAAEBAJ&amp;printsec=abstract#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.google.com/pat<wbr />ents?id...</a><br /><br />Do you use doubly linked lists in your program? That is patented too!<br /><br /><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=Szh4AAAAEBAJ&amp;printsec=abstract#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.google.com/pat<wbr />ents?id...</a><br /><br />There is a patent for displaying real estate on a map in a web-browser. &quot;Internet organizer for accessing geographically and topically based information&quot; <a href="http://1.usa.gov/h7tG6l" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://1.usa<wbr />.gov/h7tG6l</a><br /><br />Does your company distribute videos through a computer network? You are violating several patents! <br /><br />Do you have an online shopping cart? You are a patent infringer, US Patent  <b>7,272,639</b>, <b>US Patent 5,715,314</b> and US Patent <b>5,909,492</b><br /><br />Does your social game use cloud computing? That is patented too.<br /><br />How about a wireless device that plays video games? That is patented too. &quot;Apparatus for video gaming includes a box having a slot with an interface that connects to a game card providing a platform to run a software video game.&quot; <a href="http://1.usa.gov/hLVXYo" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://1.usa.gov/h<wbr />LVXYo</a><br /><br />In 1986 and 1999, patents were awarded for run-length encoding. Nearly every software company in every industry was violating these patents, until the patent expired.<br /><br />Arithmetic encoding was patented, several times, despite being prior art. You would not even know if you were violating the patent because the patent filers just changed the name of the algorithm from the prior art (but kept the algorithm and probability model the same).<br /><br />US Patent 4286256, US Patent 4295125, US Patent 4463342, US Patent 4467317, US Patent 4633490, US Patent 4652856, US Patent 4891643,US Patent 4905297, US Patent 4935882, US Patent 4973961, US Patent 5023611, US Patent 5025258<br /><br /><b>EVERYTHING is patented in software. If you write software, you are violating someones patent.</b><br /><br />Most of the software patents would be invalidated, however when you are sued you will not pay 5 million dollars to defend yourself against a weak patent claim because it is cheaper to settle the lawsuit than to fight it.<br /><br />Also, if you are aware of a patent and are later found to have violated it, then damages are tripled. This is why companies such as Microsoft instruct their employees not to examine patents.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_xp2xT6D_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_965"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_rweKbJV_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_966"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-can-I-avoid-copying-a-software-patent-by-accident/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_GHvaony_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1067"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_967"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_mUcAqK7_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1127"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1152"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/How-can-I-avoid-copying-a-software-patent-by-accident/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_867"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_vBalbCF_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_892"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_928"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1092"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Who-are-good-friends-of-Steve-Jobs" id="__w2_Vi78uXs_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1093"></span>Who are good friends of Steve Jobs?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_893"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_Re53e5Z_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_Re53e5Z_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_968"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_gdGJ555_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_gdGJ555_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_gdGJ555_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_Re53e5Z_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_Re53e5Z_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_FMQKRvJ_link"><span class="rep" id="__w2_FMQKRvJ_sig">I was standing right next to Ste...</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_FMQKRvJ_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_FMQKRvJ_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_Re53e5Z_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_969"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">4</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Marc-Bodnick">Marc Bodnick</a>, <a class="user" href="/Murtaza-Ali-Akbar">Murtaza Ali Akbar</a>, <a class="user" href="/Joe-Luka">Joe Luka</a> and <a class="user" href="/David-Haddad">David Haddad</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_970"></div>Larry Ellison. Larry Ellison is one of the major factors for why Steve Jobs was able to return to Apple and take control, after he was fired by the board of directors in ~1986.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_Re53e5Z_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_971"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_ZrAtQGC_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_972"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Who-are-good-friends-of-Steve-Jobs/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_XMQWQea_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1068"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_973"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_NrglLUW_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1128"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1153"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Who-are-good-friends-of-Steve-Jobs/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_868"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_YlSGb1s_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_894"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_929"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1094"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-can-angel-investment-in-DC-be-rapidly-expanded-in-2011" id="__w2_nU3m5qp_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1095"></span>How can angel investment in DC be rapidly expanded in 2011?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_895"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_VQ2mN4a_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_VQ2mN4a_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_974"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_FHICVBp_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_FHICVBp_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_FHICVBp_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_VQ2mN4a_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_VQ2mN4a_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_Ktu95Pq_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_Ktu95Pq_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_Ktu95Pq_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_VQ2mN4a_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_975"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">5</strong> votes</span> by <span id="__w2_l1hom2z_view_all"><a class="user" href="/Venkatesh-Rao">Venkatesh Rao</a>, <a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a>, <a class="user" href="/Newton-Naz">Newton Naz</a>, </span> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_l1hom2z_view_all_link">(more)</a><span class="hidden" id="__w2_l1hom2z_all_phrases"><a class="user" href="/Venkatesh-Rao">Venkatesh Rao</a>, <a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a>, <a class="user" href="/Newton-Naz">Newton Naz</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a> and <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a></span></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_976"></div><ol><li>Move a bunch of rich people to DC.</li><li>Move a bunch of startups to DC.</li><li>Encourage rich people to join an angel group.</li></ol><br />Also consider<br /><ul><li>publicly funded or city subsidized coworking spaces for startups</li><li>hosting events and inviting speaker to give talks about angel investing and encourage formation of angel investing groups</li><li>encourag the formation of Hackerspaces, either through direct subsidies. Hackerspaces are organized as non-profits. Hackerspaces and coworking spaces rapidly increase the technical base of a cities and accelerate company formation.</li></ul><br />For instance<br /><br /><a href="http://www.angelblog.net/Exit_Strategies_for_Angel_Investors_Video.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.angelblog.net/<wbr />Exit_St...</a><br /><br />Forming angel groups is a very important part of the process of encouraging angel investments. Angel groups are becoming social clubs and are rapidly expanding the capital base available to seed stage companies.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_VQ2mN4a_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_977"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_hAv5ZHa_view_comment_link">2 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_978"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-can-angel-investment-in-DC-be-rapidly-expanded-in-2011/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_tj3A9WM_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1069"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_979"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_AKJCRmg_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1129"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1154"><a name="comment279921"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_I5SOW8t_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">There are plenty of rich people here, and plenty of startups. I&#039;m working on #3 this very moment and will post back shortly.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Peter-Corbett">Peter Corbett</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_y7QLhks_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1155"><a name="comment280748"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_cxZm2rV_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Here it is: <a href="http://angelXLR8R.eventbrite.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://angelXLR8R.eventbr<wbr />ite.com</a></p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Peter-Corbett">Peter Corbett</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_EXl7FsL_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><span id="ld_OtEogM_1156"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/How-can-angel-investment-in-DC-be-rapidly-expanded-in-2011/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 2 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_869"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_lDOuZ5Q_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_896"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_930"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1096"></span><a class="question_link" href="/What-is-hard-about-making-something-like-EtherPad" id="__w2_wbSqNU5_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1097"></span>What is hard about making something like EtherPad?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_897"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_xDKA8Z8_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_xDKA8Z8_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_980"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_ZRa3ius_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_ZRa3ius_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_ZRa3ius_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_xDKA8Z8_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_xDKA8Z8_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_eu35Gcd_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_eu35Gcd_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_eu35Gcd_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_xDKA8Z8_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_981"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">4</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Ben-Nham">Ben Nham</a>, <a class="user" href="/Tudor-Achim">Tudor Achim</a>, <a class="user" href="/Nikola-Toshev">Nikola Toshev</a> and <a class="user" href="/Devin-Walters">Devin Walters</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_982"></div>Nothing is difficult about building an Etherpad type application, it is just very nuanced. The problem is similar to the problem of distributed databases or the problem of distributed state across multiple machines.<br /><br />I have n-computers with copies of the same piece of data. Each computer is modifying the local copy of the data and sending changes to the other computers. Assume computer 1 modifies data item 5 and then transmit change to computer 2, but before computer 2 receives the delta from computer 1, computer 2 also modifies data item 5. Then the delta is applied against data item 5 on computer 2 and now computer 1 and 2 are no longer in sync. They have different databases that are no longer syncronized.<br /><br />If the data operations commute (in the sense of group theory), then the first computer will go back into sync with computer 2, when computer 1 receives the delta from computer 2. You can treat operations on the state of data as a semi-group. If the operations do not commute (if the database state depends on the order the delta operations are applied), the the two databases will be out of sync.<br /><br />This problem does not occur in MySQL master-slave arrangements because deltas only go from the master to the slave and not in both directions.<br /><br />The following problem occurs; how do we get the two databases synced up again? How do we resolve the non-communititvity of the data operations?<br /><br />For a mathematical treatment, see<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%A0-calculus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://en.wikipedia.org/w<wbr />iki/%CE...</a><br /> <br />Notice that the operations on two different rows of a database commute. However two operations on the same row (such as setting the row to a value) do not usually do commute. Two increment or decrement operations commute.<br /><br />One method is to create a partial ordering on all data-operations and ensure that operations are applied to the data in a way that respects the partial ordering. Creating the partial ordered time stamps in a distributed system is closely related to &quot;clock synchronization problem&quot;. One solution to creating a partial ordering of events in a distributed system is called &quot;vector clocks&quot;<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_clocks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://en.wikipedia.org/w<wbr />iki/Vec...</a><br /><br />Note: a variation of vector clocks can be used for distributed versioning of data objects. In a distributed setting, using a simple version counter does not make sense. You often need a versioning method to determine whether the client has the same version of the document as the server (so that server can only retransmit diffs or transactions instead of retransmitting the whole document). In the non-distributed setting a version counter is sufficient Lazy people building distributed system who do not want to impose a partial ordering on their document versions often just use a hash of the document (git uses this approach).<br /><br />A an simpler approach to resolve conflicts is to have a single computer act as the &quot;canonical state&quot; (very similar to a master-slave arrangement, with operations being performed on central server and changes being relayed back to the clients), with that computer resolving conflicts between the deltas. There are a number of algorithms and techniques for doing this and it is a similar problem to resolving merge conflicts in a distributed version control system like Mercurial. If two delta are applied to the same data item at the same time by two different clients, the master server can invalidate the second delta to arrive. This only occurs when multiple clients/users are modifying the same area of the data and there are &#039;merge conflicts&#039; between the two diffs. Applications like etherpad have to resolve merge conflicts in real-time, often by discarding the inputs or modifications made by a particular client.<br /><br />The &quot;canonical state&quot; approach works very well for web applications, is simplier than a true p2p approach (which is not possible over http, for technological reasons). There are &quot;stateless&quot; and &quot;state full&quot; protocols in the sense that a state full protocol requires the server may need to keep track of client information, such as the current version of the document each client has in memory.<br /><br />An even simpler (and less satisfactory) approach is to given each client a token and invalidate diffs from all clients except the one with the token. This model is &quot;everyone can modify the data, but only one person can be modifying it at a given time&quot;.<br /><br />Etherpad is &quot;online&quot; in the sense that clients cannot disappear for weeks and then come back and submit diffs from days ago. This simplifies the problem significantly. However, the problem is complicated by real-time nature of Etherpad.<br /><br />For instance, HTML does not have server to client messages. Therefore it is difficult for the server to push changes to the client as changes occur to the document. HTML clients must poll, use long polling, flash or WebSockets.<br /><br />If the client is only polling once every 2 seconds, then all deltas will arrive in 2 second intervals and be applied in batches. Changes occur in lumps instead of in natural key-by-key sequences. One way to mitigate this is to time stamp deltas and replay them on the client. This makes typing appear nature and gives the illusion that the client is updating as the keys are coming in, even if the changes are only applied 2-4 seconds after the initial key press on the original client. Time stamped deltas also enable correction for variance in client-server latency.<br /><br />There are 4 operations an Etherpad type application is communicating from client to server are,<br /><br />1&gt; Add character<br />2&gt; Delete character<br />3&gt; Add Line of Characters<br />4&gt; Delete line of characters<br /><br />A challenge on the UI client side is keeping the scroll bar position constant as text is added/removed. This is more of a problem for longer documents (google docs) than it is for Etherpad, which tends to be used for shorter documents.<br /><br />Building an Etherpad type applications is not difficult, it is just very nuanced.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_xDKA8Z8_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_983"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_oWb42kP_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_984"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/What-is-hard-about-making-something-like-EtherPad/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_bOM16wa_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1070"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_985"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_EhdpxMZ_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1130"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1157"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/What-is-hard-about-making-something-like-EtherPad/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_870"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_k7n3Q29_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_898"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_931"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1098"></span><a class="question_link" href="/In-a-two-person-team-should-one-person-be-in-charge-of-the-features-and-product-strategy" id="__w2_esgpyii_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1099"></span>In a two person team, should one person be in charge of the features and product strategy?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_899"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_d5WVFXY_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_d5WVFXY_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_986"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_perjYqE_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_perjYqE_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_perjYqE_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_d5WVFXY_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_d5WVFXY_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_N0ZeCbN_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_N0ZeCbN_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_N0ZeCbN_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_d5WVFXY_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_987"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">13</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Michiel-van-Vlaardingen">Michiel van Vlaardingen</a>, <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a>, <a class="user" href="/Tony-Ross-Bowling">Tony Ross Bowling</a>, <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_XqhDcKN_view_all_link">(more)</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_988"></div>This question is an attempt at groping for moral authority.<br /><br />MBA/Lawyer: &quot;I think that I am open to learning from others, but everyone else should just do what I say.&quot;<br /><br />&quot;It would streamline decision making if everyone would just do what I tell them instead of involving themselves with the product. Someone has to have a final say on the product.&quot;<br /><br />In many startups the &quot;business person&quot; tries to make all product decisions and expects the technical co-founder to just focus on building the product. For some reason, most companies structured like this seem to fail. Developers in this position are often micromanaged and nagged to death or alienated. Even if the company is successful at launching a product, or raising money, they have difficulty expanding the team and lack the core management team needed for expansion.<br /><br />Developers I have spoken to who have worked as technical cofounders with an autocratic technical cofounder often describe the experience as similar to working for a bad client. Successful team where the developer was not heavily involved with the product design and customer are rare.<br /><br />Different people have different leadership and communication styles.<br /><br />Some people are more democratic and will accept input from others and defer to their expertise. Other people have a more autocratic communication style and will insist upon making all the decisions in the organization.<br /><br />I believe that decisions in an organization should be made by the people with the 1&gt; information and 2&gt; expertise to best make then decision.<br /><br />Saying &quot;one person needs to be responsible&quot; or &quot;each person much have a well defined fiefdom&quot; is conceptually simple but sacrifices organizational performance for simplicity in organizational structure. Saying &quot;this person is responsible for marketing, and he is responsible for technology&quot; divides decision marketing by roles.<br /><br />As an example, a hypothetical modern internet marketing campaign might require twitter/facebook integration with a web application, analytics functionality measuring the effectiveness of the marketing technique and A/B testing to optimize the marketing technique. Is this marketing campaign &quot;responsibility&quot; of engineering or the responsibility of marketing? Achieving even simple corporate goals requires behavior and decision making which cut across firm boundaries and roles.<br /><br />&quot;Responsibilities&quot; and &quot;decision making authority&quot; in an effective organization are delegated on the basis by expertise and knowledge, rather than by functional roles.<br /><br />You have to ask<br />1&gt; Which person or group has the knowledge to best make this decision<br />2&gt; Who has the expertise to make this decision<br /><br />On matters of design, defer decisions to a designer.<br /><br />Often a decision cuts across functional boundaries. A product feature decision requires<br /><br />1&gt; An conceptualization of the customer/user<br />2&gt; Ability to estimate the engineering complexity of the feature<br />3&gt; A set of criteria against which to evaluate the decision being made (what are the goals of the organization? Increase LTV, customer acquisition, reducing churn rates, etc...<br /><br />The first is a product manager/ customer development role. The second is an engineering role. The third is an executive role. It is the role of the executive to set organizational goals and define the criteria against which decisions will be judged.<br /><br />Decisions will be best made when the expertise (product/company Independent) and knowledge (product/company specific) required to make the decision are possessed by a single person. In the absence of an ubermensch who has broad company/product specific knowledge and an extremely high level of skill/expertise in multiple domains, decisions will be made by groups.<br /><br />MBA: &quot;I think that I am open to learning from others, but everyone else should just do what I say.&quot;<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_d5WVFXY_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_989"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_y5pbKwV_view_comment_link">1 Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_990"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/In-a-two-person-team-should-one-person-be-in-charge-of-the-features-and-product-strategy/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_vGR97CI_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1071"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_991"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_r5kfClG_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1131"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1158"><a name="comment276440"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_tIoYf1J_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Also, one of these two people should be a paramedic or at least have first aid training because someone just got BURNED.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Yishan-Wong">Yishan Wong</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_EeSEBKO_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><span id="ld_OtEogM_1159"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/In-a-two-person-team-should-one-person-be-in-charge-of-the-features-and-product-strategy/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View 1 Comment</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_871"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_CA7zBNy_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_900"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_932"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1100"></span><a class="question_link" href="/What-are-some-of-the-best-books-on-behavioral-investing" id="__w2_Z4sH8om_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1101"></span>What are some of the best books on behavioral investing?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_901"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_DT7ajdN_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_DT7ajdN_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_992"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_cvRPiNo_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_cvRPiNo_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_cvRPiNo_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_DT7ajdN_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_DT7ajdN_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_gmHQCiX_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_gmHQCiX_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_gmHQCiX_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_DT7ajdN_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_993"></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_994"></div>These books are deceptively titled, but are actually about behavior finance.<br /><br /><b>Inside the Investor&#039;s Brain: The Power of Mind Over Money</b> <a href="http://amzn.to/eNwqkV" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.to/eNwq<wbr />kV</a><br /><br /><b>MarketPsych: How to Manage Fear and Build Your Investor Identity </b><a href="http://amzn.to/hytSiB" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.to/h<wbr />ytSiB</a><div class="action_bar" id="__w2_DT7ajdN_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_995"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_QX5SPQQ_view_comment_link">4 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_996"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/What-are-some-of-the-best-books-on-behavioral-investing/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_B6gpXm6_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1072"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_997"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_ZN6R8Jn_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1132"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1160"><a name="comment267015"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_qV5YBJU_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Has anyone actually shown consistently higher returns using behavioral investing? Or in other words, is there evidence that &quot;predictable irrationality&quot; provides enough of an investing edge given all the other noise sources that might swamp it out?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Venkatesh-Rao">Venkatesh Rao</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_ZdCt2lM_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1161"><a name="comment268421"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_TaUHAgA_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">I spoke to the guy who runs the Market Psych hedge fund and he said he was making a few dozen basis points a month per stock, using sentiment data.<br /><br />It definitely used extensively in HFT.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_ZDs0ZoE_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1162"><a name="comment268426"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_zyCZYQS_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Personally, I believe that small cap stocks are more susceptible to news related price changes. However, I have not run any tests on this theory.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_kyq4yeg_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1163"><a name="comment280274"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_qhNBMYi_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">This answer appears to be primarily self-promotional. See <span class="qlink_container"><a href="/Why-are-answers-on-Quora-collapsed">Why are answers on Quora marked as Not Helpful?</a></span></p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Marius-Kempe">Marius Kempe</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_kn5XeLF_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><span id="ld_OtEogM_1164"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/What-are-some-of-the-best-books-on-behavioral-investing/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 4 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_872"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_yBRVfec_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_902"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_933"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1102"></span><a class="question_link" href="/What-are-some-good-ways-to-get-new-angel-investors-into-the-market" id="__w2_S6ITgJx_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1103"></span>What are some good ways to get new angel investors into the market?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_903"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_MMvCQs0_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_MMvCQs0_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_998"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_nQNN0P6_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_nQNN0P6_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_nQNN0P6_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_MMvCQs0_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_MMvCQs0_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_RrzA6QR_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_RrzA6QR_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_RrzA6QR_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_MMvCQs0_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_999"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">1</strong> vote</span> by <a class="user" href="/Mbwana-Alliy">Mbwana Alliy</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1000"></div>I have seen studies suggesting that seed stage investments as an asset class have a 30% rate of return. <br /><br />However, most investors are not properly diversified enough. Many investors do not have enough cash to build a diversified angel portfolio. If you remove the 1-2 top returning companies in a 30 company portfolio, the rate of return goes to zero.<br /><br />Most investors are also suffer adverse selection and many of the prime companies are increasing going through groups like Angel List or are syndicated among a very small group of &#039;super angel&#039; investors.<br /><br />The best model I have seen, is for high profile investors or network hubs to receive cheap/free equity for allowing the companies to put that person&#039;s name on their advisor board. The people on the advisor board then try to push the company on angels in their network.<br /><br />This strategy seems to work very well for certain people, both in LA and in SV.<br /><br />&quot;Active Investors&quot; who can generate early customers for a company or who can recruit capital or employees are also in a position to extract cheap/free equity and build a diversified portfolio.<br /><br />In general, investing human capital is better for both the investor and the company and produces better returns to the investor than putting money in the company. The best way to create angel investors is to increase the opportunities for entrepreneurs to network with the wider community of companies and people.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_MMvCQs0_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1001"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_kr30mwT_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_1002"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/What-are-some-good-ways-to-get-new-angel-investors-into-the-market/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_c8YerHs_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1073"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1003"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_ihlJOAr_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1133"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1165"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/What-are-some-good-ways-to-get-new-angel-investors-into-the-market/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_873"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_xT0qj0Y_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_904"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_934"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1104"></span><a class="question_link" href="/I-believe-that-VC-is-for-lesser-men-Are-my-ideals-self-defeating" id="__w2_F0nYeZD_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1105"></span>I believe that VC is for lesser men. Are my ideals self-defeating?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_905"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_wVftvfm_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_wVftvfm_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1004"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_x95H2uW_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_x95H2uW_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_x95H2uW_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_wVftvfm_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_wVftvfm_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_JUuQWqU_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_JUuQWqU_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_JUuQWqU_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_wVftvfm_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1005"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">1</strong> vote</span> by <a class="user" href="/Hunter-Peress">Hunter Peress</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1006"></div>The majority of successful companies do not receive any VC funding. Less than 10% of companies that IPO took on early stage private equity. Approximately 70% of companies that IPO took on private equity investment at some point (mostly in late stage &#039;growth private equity&#039;).<br /><br />Walmart was in a highly capital intensive industry with low margins and never required venture capital. For profitable companies with positive cash flows, bank loans may have a lower cost of capital compared to selling equity.<br /><br />Early stage venture capital is a &quot;Silicon Valley&quot; thing and most successful entrepreneurs build their companies without VCs.<br /><br />By the time your company has enough customers to have easy access to venture capital, most companies will not need it anymore. If you are in an industry like software, which low has capital costs and 100% margins, then VC may not be appropriate for you.<br /><br />Most successful companies do not achieve the scale required to return liquidity to their investors and therefore venture capital is not appropriate for the majority of entrepreneurs and their companies. Building a 15 million dollar a year consulting company that throws of a few million a year in profits is great for the founder, but not an appropriate target for VC investment.<br /><br />In some industries, building out the sales distribution channel is more expensive than building the product and VC may be appropriate.<br /><br />In general, people are too willing to take on outside investment, even if they do not need it and have no use for it. I spoke with a social game CEO who has a profitable flash games company. He had VC money shoved down his throat. He said &quot;I dont regret taking VC, but I regret spending the money.&quot;<br /><br />I would recommend reading,<br /><br /><b>Raising Venture Capital for the Serious Entrepreneur </b><a href="http://amzn.to/hPdFp0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.<wbr />to/hPdFp0</a><br /><br />Do not let anyone in Silicon Valley tell you that you are not a real company if you do not take on venture capital. VC funded companies make the news and people gossip about valuations. However, for every successful venture backed company there are three dozen &quot;quietly profitable&quot; companies.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_wVftvfm_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1007"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_oYzLR6F_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_1008"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/I-believe-that-VC-is-for-lesser-men-Are-my-ideals-self-defeating/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_NMGXrpL_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1074"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1009"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_JwFE9Ag_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1134"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1166"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/I-believe-that-VC-is-for-lesser-men-Are-my-ideals-self-defeating/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_874"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_mgvV32L_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_906"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_935"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1106"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Palantir-Technologies/Why-would-Palantir-go-after-WikiLeaks" id="__w2_SHYTW6N_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1107"></span>Why would Palantir go after WikiLeaks?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_907"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_xgtUJmV_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_xgtUJmV_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1010"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_oIiZlmF_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_oIiZlmF_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_oIiZlmF_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_xgtUJmV_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_xgtUJmV_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_cxvgIrm_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_cxvgIrm_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_cxvgIrm_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_xgtUJmV_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1011"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">13</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Craig-Montuori">Craig Montuori</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ryan-Borek">Ryan Borek</a>, <a class="user" href="/Cinders-Holmes">Cinders Holmes</a>, <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_egWMGn0_view_all_link">(more)</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1012"></div>This is a business issue not a moral one. The US federal government is Palantir&#039;s largest customer. The message of these slides is very clear;<br /><br /><b>&quot;You have to respond to Wikileaks immediately, by giving us massive amounts of money for our software and consulting services. You cannot wait to write us a massive blank check, because the threat of Wikileaks is too great.&quot;<br /></b><br />Palantir&#039;s management would have to be incompetent to not try to capitalize on Wikileaks.<br /><br />More disturbing than Palantir&#039;s actions, is that the slides suggest that the US government should use Palantir&#039;s software to identify and threaten the job security of civilians, on the basis of which political organizations or ideologies they support.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_xgtUJmV_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1013"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_oqdIoSR_view_comment_link">1 Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_1014"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Palantir-Technologies/Why-would-Palantir-go-after-WikiLeaks/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_AzKP0ti_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1075"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1015"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_SPw9T1j_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1135"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1167"><a name="comment249980"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_m97fZXq_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">&quot;We&#039;ll spend our way out of this recession&quot; and what&#039;s a better expenditure than a fighting a political enemy?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Yaniv-Goldenrand">Yaniv Goldenrand</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_CEexKIr_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><span id="ld_OtEogM_1168"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Palantir-Technologies/Why-would-Palantir-go-after-WikiLeaks/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View 1 Comment</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_875"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_ILqnToj_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_908"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_936"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1108"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-does-having-a-big-ego-correlate-with-success" id="__w2_GHjofrd_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1109"></span>How does having a big ego correlate with success?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_909"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_PLeOBQh_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_PLeOBQh_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1016"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_cQydKLQ_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_cQydKLQ_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_cQydKLQ_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_PLeOBQh_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_PLeOBQh_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_KfJEoxk_link"><span class="rep" id="__w2_KfJEoxk_sig">I was standing right next to Ste...</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_KfJEoxk_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_KfJEoxk_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_PLeOBQh_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1017"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">3</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Seb-Paquet">Seb Paquet</a>, <a class="user" href="/Joey-Flores">Joey Flores</a> and <a class="user" href="/Murtaza-Ali-Akbar">Murtaza Ali Akbar</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1018"></div>Arrogance is a critical factor for career success in many industries.<br /><br />Most people tell themselves &quot;I dont know if I can do this&quot; and they never try. Others have the arrogance to attempt things that they have not tried before.<br /><br />Building a history of success, without prior success requires an uncommon level of self-efficacy.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_PLeOBQh_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1019"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_IDzWvth_view_comment_link">2 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_1020"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-does-having-a-big-ego-correlate-with-success/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_Pff2J7Y_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1076"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1021"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_Wk2irPO_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1136"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1169"><a name="comment265369"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_vdw6H2d_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Don&#039;t confuse arrogance with confidence.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Justin-Maxwell">Justin Maxwell</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_T6hUJS1_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1170"><a name="comment265672"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_RH6dxZN_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">What you call confidence, other will call arrogance.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_xgZtuQY_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><span id="ld_OtEogM_1171"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/How-does-having-a-big-ego-correlate-with-success/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 2 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_876"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_P4UGy7p_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_910"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_937"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1110"></span><a class="question_link" href="/If-you-had-to-teach-yourself-math-from-basic-algebra-to-high-level-mathematics-what-would-be-your-strategy" id="__w2_sALuG5g_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1111"></span>If you had to teach yourself math from basic algebra to high level mathematics, what would be your strategy?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_911"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_dCN4SYF_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_dCN4SYF_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1022"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_HViBBYR_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_HViBBYR_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_HViBBYR_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_dCN4SYF_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_dCN4SYF_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_FGMP0Ot_link"><span class="rep" id="__w2_FGMP0Ot_sig">Hilbert Spaces, Differential Geo...</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_FGMP0Ot_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_FGMP0Ot_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_dCN4SYF_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1023"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">1</strong> vote</span> by <a class="user" href="/Bob-Hancock">Bob Hancock</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1024"></div>For pure mathematics I would start with:<br /><br /><b>Mathematics: Its Content, Methods and Meaning</b> by Kolmogorov <a href="http://amzn.to/bZJ1gk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn<wbr />.to/bZJ1gk</a><br /><br /><b>The Skeleton Key of Mathematics </b><a href="http://amzn.to/e7mHe3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.to/e7mHe3</a><br /><br />For exciting and useful applied mathematics at a basic level start reading David G. Luenbergers&#039;s books.  Particularly,<br /><br /><b>Investment Science</b>  <a href="http://amzn.to/9D2JWz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.to/9D2JWz</a><br /><br /><b>Information Science</b> <a href="http://amzn.to/ebaxrX" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.to/eb<wbr />axrX</a><br /><br />Investment Science and Information Science are two of my favorite mathematics related books. They have also been the most useful to me.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_dCN4SYF_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1025"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_hAHspzE_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_1026"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/If-you-had-to-teach-yourself-math-from-basic-algebra-to-high-level-mathematics-what-would-be-your-strategy/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_fvjulgq_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1077"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1027"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_PJ1mI4d_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1137"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1172"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/If-you-had-to-teach-yourself-math-from-basic-algebra-to-high-level-mathematics-what-would-be-your-strategy/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_877"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_tzUDRct_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_912"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_938"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1112"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Why-get-a-409A-valuation" id="__w2_GbN4b0T_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1113"></span>Why get a 409A valuation? </a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_913"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_ShH6yTC_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_ShH6yTC_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1028"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_QYIY9um_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_QYIY9um_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_QYIY9um_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_ShH6yTC_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_ShH6yTC_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_ENuytYY_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_ENuytYY_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_ENuytYY_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_ShH6yTC_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1029"></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1030"></div>To avoid being taxed at 90% as a tax penalties for under-pricing the strike price of employee stock options.<br /><br />The federal government will take 20% penalty tax on stock grants if they were under-priced. CA will take another 20%.<br /><br />Today most startups are issuing restricted stock to avoid 409A.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_ShH6yTC_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1031"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_skjNjWA_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_1032"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Why-get-a-409A-valuation/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_QCnt2GN_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1078"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1033"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_aOhhOWQ_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1138"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1173"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Why-get-a-409A-valuation/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_878"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_HCGWvbm_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_914"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_939"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1114"></span><a class="question_link" href="/What-kinds-of-defensibility-of-a-business-model-are-most-VCs-investors-looking-for" id="__w2_seWzl74_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1115"></span>What kinds of &#039;defensibility&#039; of a business model are most VC&#039;s/investors looking for?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_915"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_uI975s2_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_uI975s2_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1034"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_Xc1mS0P_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_Xc1mS0P_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_Xc1mS0P_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_uI975s2_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_uI975s2_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_aTMYd3m_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_aTMYd3m_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_aTMYd3m_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_uI975s2_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1035"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">1</strong> vote</span> by <a class="user" href="/Erbil-Karaman">Erbil Karaman</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1036"></div>For most kinds of businesses, defensibility is illusionary. Investors are looking for the illusionary kind of defensibility that looks good on paper, but which exists for only a very small number of real businesses.<br /><br />Patents are almost worthless for protection. They are good for retaliation against patent lawsuits by competition and for extracting licensing fees. Five years from now, when your patent is granted, your company will be successful or it will be dead. However, some investors like patents, while other investors feel that they are worthless or irrelevant. Patents in material science are useful, patents in software are worthless. <br /><br />Defensibility and investor expectations for defensibility are highly market dependent.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_uI975s2_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1037"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_fbB70D6_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_1038"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/What-kinds-of-defensibility-of-a-business-model-are-most-VCs-investors-looking-for/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_nQKiFNZ_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1079"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1039"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_qI84X2d_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1139"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1174"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/What-kinds-of-defensibility-of-a-business-model-are-most-VCs-investors-looking-for/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_879"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_YDBuS29_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_916"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_940"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1116"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Will-Dave-Morins-slow-product-movement-be-successful" id="__w2_c8g7iZa_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1117"></span>Will Dave Morin&#039;s &quot;slow product&quot; movement be successful?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_917"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_ztTABx8_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_ztTABx8_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1040"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_tsF7Ba4_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_tsF7Ba4_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_tsF7Ba4_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_ztTABx8_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_ztTABx8_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_fqO5ao1_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_fqO5ao1_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_fqO5ao1_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_ztTABx8_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1041"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a> and <a class="user" href="/Bob-Scirpo">Bob Scirpo</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1042"></div>Slow is great, but only if you have revenues. If you are an iphone photosharing application; then slow means you can only survive for as long as venture capitalists are willing to pump more money into the company.<br /><br />Even if the company exits at $250 million in ten years, the liquidation preferences for the preferred will be piled so high that there will be nothing left for the employees and management (like Slide).<br /><br />Digg had 15 million a year in revenue at peak, but have never been profitable. Then traffic fell by 50% after the user numbers peaked.<br /><br />A &quot;slow&quot; company can make money for the founders, but only if they achieve a high valuation and sell off common stock to investors (etc. &quot;take money off the table&quot;). Otherwise the only way a company without revenues can generate returns for its investors is if it is flipped.<br /><br />A &quot;slow company&quot; does not make sense if backed by venture capital, because the fund partners need to show returns to their LPs within a 15 year period. If the company does a secondary sale and early investors sell their stake to new investors, then maybe a &quot;slow company&quot; could exist.<br /><br />As an investment, I am not sure that a &quot;slow company&quot; makes any sense.<br /><br />By &quot;slow company&quot;, what they mean is &quot;We will build a bunch of crap and something will be successful eventually&quot;. The idea of a &quot;slow company&quot; is probably just a way of putting off pressure to show revenues and traction early in the company&#039;s history.<br /><br />Many successful companies (Paypal, Slide, etc...) were started by entrepreneurs who had no idea what they were doing and who changed markets and products several times.<br /><br />If the private equity bubble pops again, the &quot;slow companies&quot; without revenues are going to be the ones who are hit the hardest.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_ztTABx8_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1043"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_x97yX8g_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_1044"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Will-Dave-Morins-slow-product-movement-be-successful/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_a6ND1aH_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1080"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1045"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_rqYyPms_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1140"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1175"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/Will-Dave-Morins-slow-product-movement-be-successful/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_880"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_PLJONeU_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_918"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_941"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1118"></span><a class="question_link" href="/If-you-are-an-investor-for-an-early-stage-company-do-you-place-more-value-on-1MM-unique-visitor-or-the-ability-to-convert-at-5-but-only-1000-customers" id="__w2_FYKwyMV_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1119"></span>If you are an investor for an early stage company, do you place more value on 1MM unique visitor or the ability to convert at 5%+ but only 1000 customers?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_919"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_ubEQFko_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_ubEQFko_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1046"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_Vi0GFbo_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_Vi0GFbo_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_Vi0GFbo_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_ubEQFko_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_ubEQFko_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_eXvwPac_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_eXvwPac_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_eXvwPac_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_ubEQFko_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1047"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a> and <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1048"></div>If you can monetize, then you can reinvest revenues into customer acquisition through search and display advertising. As soon as you can get your cost per customer acquisition below the LTV of your users, you can scale up through display advertising and search advertising channels.<br /><br />Having a repeatable customer acquisition process is more important than the total number of users. Having a CAC below your LTV shows your investors that you have something to spend money on.<br /><br />If you cannot monetize (ex. Twitter), then having a large number of users is the only alternative.<br /><br />If you can convert users, the next thing you want to do is to try different user acquisition channels and determine what is effective for your business. It is more difficult to acquire users profitably at scale without revenues to reinvest into customer acquisition channels.<br /><br />I do not believe that the answer is one or the other. It depends on your customer acquisition channels and depends on whether your channel is SEO or display advertising. Conversion rates do not matter as much for SEO traffic, which is effectively free; where as conversion rates are critical to optimize if your traffic is display or search advertising driven, because increases conversion rates will lower you CAC.<br /><br />Improving your product will improve churn rates.<br />Decreasing churn rates will increase LTV for subscription service<br />Improving your conversion rates will improve (decrease) your CAC<br /><br />What matter is not &quot;conversion rates&quot; or &quot;number of users&quot;, but &quot;number of new users times conversion rate&quot;, because that is the rate of user-base growth. You can either improve the conversion rate or you can improve the number of user coming into customer acquisition channel, but the rate of user growth will be the arithmetic product of those two variables.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_ubEQFko_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1049"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_x6SjsBs_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_1050"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/If-you-are-an-investor-for-an-early-stage-company-do-you-place-more-value-on-1MM-unique-visitor-or-the-ability-to-convert-at-5-but-only-1000-customers/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_ICRXDz8_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1081"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1051"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_nqlg7GQ_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1141"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1176"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/If-you-are-an-investor-for-an-early-stage-company-do-you-place-more-value-on-1MM-unique-visitor-or-the-ability-to-convert-at-5-but-only-1000-customers/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_OtEogM_881"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_rYHJzQi_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_OtEogM_920"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_OtEogM_942"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1120"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-do-I-create-a-social-life-after-college-that-rivals-or-is-better-than-the-average-college-social-life" id="__w2_xVDosFe_link"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1121"></span>How do I create a social life after college that rivals or is better than the average college social life?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_921"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_CwLood7_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_CwLood7_answer_voting"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1052"><div class="rating_buttons"><div class="rating_options" id="__w2_zBYCAHh_buttons"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_zBYCAHh_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_zBYCAHh_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content" id="__w2_CwLood7_answer_wrapper"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_CwLood7_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_K4bPeYH_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_K4bPeYH_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_K4bPeYH_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_CwLood7_answer_voters"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1053"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">7</strong> votes</span> by <span id="__w2_RPRimMq_view_all"><a class="user" href="/Aaron-Chiu">Aaron Chiu</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a>, </span> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_RPRimMq_view_all_link">(more)</a><span class="hidden" id="__w2_RPRimMq_all_phrases"><a class="user" href="/Aaron-Chiu">Aaron Chiu</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ian-Peters-Campbell">Ian Peters-Campbell</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a>, <a class="user" href="/Alistair-Atkinson">Alistair Atkinson</a>, <a class="user" href="/Surya-Yalamanchili">Surya Yalamanchili</a>, <a class="user" href="/Kavin-Kankeshwar">Kavin Kankeshwar</a> and <a class="user" href="/Leon-Kitain">Leon Kitain</a></span></span></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1054"></div>1&gt; Get money. Work 80 hours a week, sacrifice your life, build a company, sell it for enough money that you can live comfortably.<br /><br />2&gt; Move to LA<br /><br />3&gt; Join the Karma Foundation. <a href="http://thekarmafoundation.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://thekarmafoundation<wbr />.com/</a><br /><br /><img class="qtext_image" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-87642727d03a0818e648813c31cdb4ee" title="Click to Enlarge" style="cursor: pointer" master_src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-7befcfd5eed92a6fad6da541853020d7" master_w="570" master_h="380" /><br />I spent eight years of my life in the library during and before high school, reading sociology, psychology, cognitive science, physics, computer science books and biographies. Then in college I spent three years in the library studying computational chemistry, machine learning and mathematics (which is why my twitter handle is RKHilbertSpace :).<br /><br />Then after college, I worked &quot;investment banker hours&quot; bootstrapping my startup, until my hair line was receding from the stress. I did not have much of a &#039;social life&#039; and all my relationships were business related. I did not have time for people that could not help me achieve my goals. By the end I had very few people that I talked to daily and who I enjoyed being around.<br /><br />I have not sold my companies yet, but after I moved to LA from NY I started meeting people who have sold their companies and they are much more relaxed and happier than I am.<br /><br />I told someone I wanted a G5 eventually, but that right now I am only trying to build a 15m/year business and that later in life, when I am more experienced and have more resources that I wanted take on more risk. He told me &quot;As you get older, you will find that other things become more important than owning a jet. You will find that time becomes more valuable. For instance travel has become much more important to me.&quot; I responded, &quot;Yes, when I sell my company, I hope that I do not become too lazy to go after the jet.&quot; and we both laughed.<br /><br />I am learning that having a good social life means being around people with common goals, aspirations and values.<br /><br />I am realizing that most people have nothing in common with me and that I do not enjoy being around them. Most people wake up, goto work and come home to watch television. They &quot;rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.&quot;<br /><br />Having goals and people around me to aspire to those goals with, has improved my social life more than anything else.  Being successful and having other people to enjoy that success with is the most important thing.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_CwLood7_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1055"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_FWqAe72_view_comment_link">5 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_1056"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-do-I-create-a-social-life-after-college-that-rivals-or-is-better-than-the-average-college-social-life/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_THIwOdY_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1082"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1057"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_mAbwLx6_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1142"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1177"><a name="comment218364"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_oQAgeoJ_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Brandon, you rock.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_KsfiPCC_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1178"><a name="comment218586"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_oVovJSx_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Sky father! <br /><br />There are simpler ways to hang out with skanky ladies.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Thomas-Hartman">Thomas Hartman</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_E9Te4iS_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1179"><a name="comment218639"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_qmMsCoS_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">Thomas, I know you love to dance, but expensive dancing classes only solve the lead generation problem.<br /><br />Having lots of money solves the dating problem on the demand size. It is the fastest way to increase your conversion rates and fatten your user acquisition funnel.<br /><br />I have A/B tested this one.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_mA7M09p_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1180"><a name="comment218655"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_lcHABaR_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text">I&#039;ll see you at lindy groove yet, you disturbing person.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Thomas-Hartman">Thomas Hartman</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_NfczlHW_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1181"><a name="comment218682"></a><div class="comment p0_5 br5 featured_comment" id="__w2_hklfEHg_comment"><div class="comment_contents"><p class="comment_text"><a href="http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&amp;hl=en&amp;q=%22now+you+have+two+problems%22&amp;aq=f&amp;aqi=g-v2g-o1&amp;aql=f&amp;oq=&amp;pbx=1&amp;fp=d87fcfdb2e6b7745" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.google.com/#sc<wbr />lient=p...</a></p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Thomas-Hartman">Thomas Hartman</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; 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- all HTML, CSS and JavaScript<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmtQOB_KFzU" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.youtube.com/wa<wbr />tch?v=S...</a><br /><br />This company was Dextrose and was recently acquired by Zynga.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_uMolO3k_answer_actions"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1061"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_tKcOH9I_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_OtEogM_1062"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-long-before-we-see-a-social-game-engine-written-entirely-in-HTML-5-and-JavaScript/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_mFbt3nq_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_OtEogM_1083"></span></span></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_1063"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_MZS7g4f_answer_comments"><div id="ld_OtEogM_1143"><span id="ld_OtEogM_1183"><div class="comment p0_5"><small><a class="light" href="/How-long-before-we-see-a-social-game-engine-written-entirely-in-HTML-5-and-JavaScript/all_comments/Brandon-Smietana">View All 0 Comments</a></small></div></span></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_883"><div class="hidden" id="__w2_XAvHN69_loading"><span class="__wn2_loading"><span class="__wn2_loading_spinner"></span><span class="__wn2_loading_text">Loading...</span></span></div><div class="pager_next action_button" id="__w2_XAvHN69_more">More</div></div></div></div></div><div class="e_col w2_5 side_col"><div class="row"><div class="e_col w1 p1"><div id="ld_OtEogM_843"><div class="profile_photo"><div id="ld_OtEogM_846"><a href="/Brandon-Smietana"><img class="profile_photo_img" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-thumb-6673-100-iQY07uHy4EIxliIOKB2oVtdnn7FsdmZc.jpeg" width="100" alt="Brandon Smietana" height="100" /></a></div></div></div></div><div class="e_col w1_5 side_col p1"><div class="light page_opts row"><div id="ld_OtEogM_844"><ul class="action_list"></ul></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_845"><div class="row p1"><div class="col mini_count first"><a href="/Brandon-Smietana/followers"><strong>781</strong><br />Followers</a></div><div class="col mini_count "><a href="/Brandon-Smietana/following"><strong>363</strong><br />Following</a></div><div class="col mini_count "><a href="/Brandon-Smietana/mentions"><strong>34</strong><br />@Mentions</a></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_841"><div class="row section p1" id="answers"><strong>Recent Top Answers</strong><div id="ld_OtEogM_848"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">56</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Success/If-I-havent-succeeded-in-my-mid-20s-could-I-be-successful-in-the-rest-of-my-life/answer/Brandon-Smietana">If I haven&#039;t succeeded in my mid 20s, could I be successful in the rest of my life?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_vr3Z8Ec_truncated"><div id="ld_OtEogM_853"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>Net worth at age 28 has only a slight correlation of 0.13 with your net worth at 33-41.<br />... <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_uCCLSSm_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_vr3Z8Ec_expanded"><div id="ld_OtEogM_854">Net worth at age 28 has only a slight correlation of 0.13 with your net worth at 33-41.<br /><br />Many entrepreneurs do not achieve an exit until they are in mid thirties to late forties.The percentage of people who succeed before they are 35 is very low. People in their early thirties tend to be on their third or fourth company and still have not achieved an exit yet.<br /><br />Also, many people who &quot;Succeed&quot; early on seem to spend all their money and are not successful at 30. Many people have flipped web-applications for 1 to 3 million in their early 20s and most of them do not know how to invest. Many people live above their level of income and end up spending the money by the time they are 30. The natural tendency of most Americans is towards debt (negative savings rate).<br /><br />Most of the people I have met who were successful in their 20s, were unsuccessful by the time they were in their thirties. This may constitute the majority of people who are &quot;successful&quot; in their 20s, although I am sure there are exceptions.<br /><br />One person built a successful social game and started to make several hundred thousand dollars a year overnight. However, instead of focusing on what made him successful, he was buying cars and traveling and his competitors annihilated his company and he lost his revenue source.<br /><br />Financial success begets laziness. Laziness begets failure. It is the virtuous cycle.</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_849"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">14</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Palantir-Technologies/Why-would-Palantir-go-after-WikiLeaks/answer/Brandon-Smietana">Why would Palantir go after WikiLeaks?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_Kij7f6u_truncated"><div id="ld_OtEogM_855"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>This is a business issue not a moral one. The US federal government is Palantir&#039;s largest customer. The message of these slides is very clear;<br />... <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_L6SVdii_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_Kij7f6u_expanded"><div id="ld_OtEogM_856">This is a business issue not a moral one. The US federal government is Palantir&#039;s largest customer. The message of these slides is very clear;<br /><br /><b>&quot;You have to respond to Wikileaks immediately, by giving us massive amounts of money for our software and consulting services. You cannot wait to write us a massive blank check, because the threat of Wikileaks is too great.&quot;<br /></b><br />Palantir&#039;s management would have to be incompetent to not try to capitalize on Wikileaks.<br /><br />More disturbing than Palantir&#039;s actions, is that the slides suggest that the US government should use Palantir&#039;s software to identify and threaten the job security of civilians, on the basis of which political organizations or ideologies they support.</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_850"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">14</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/In-a-two-person-team-should-one-person-be-in-charge-of-the-features-and-product-strategy/answer/Brandon-Smietana">In a two person team, should one person be in charge of the features and product strategy?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_XWV7byJ_truncated"><div id="ld_OtEogM_857"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>This question is an attempt at groping for moral authority.<br />... <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_Hndz3tT_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_XWV7byJ_expanded"><div id="ld_OtEogM_858">This question is an attempt at groping for moral authority.<br /><br />MBA/Lawyer: &quot;I think that I am open to learning from others, but everyone else should just do what I say.&quot;<br /><br />&quot;It would streamline decision making if everyone would just do what I tell them instead of involving themselves with the product. Someone has to have a final say on the product.&quot;<br /><br />In many startups the &quot;business person&quot; tries to make all product decisions and expects the technical co-founder to just focus on building the product. For some reason, most companies structured like this seem to fail. Developers in this position are often micromanaged and nagged to death or alienated. Even if the company is successful at launching a product, or raising money, they have difficulty expanding the team and lack the core management team needed for expansion.<br /><br />Developers I have spoken to who have worked as technical cofounders with an autocratic technical cofounder often describe the experience as similar to working for a bad client. Successful team where the developer was not heavily involved with the product design and customer are rare.<br /><br />Different people have different leadership and communication styles.<br /><br />Some people are more democratic and will accept input from others and defer to their expertise. Other people have a more autocratic communication style and will insist upon making all the decisions in the organization.<br /><br />I believe that decisions in an organization should be made by the people with the 1&gt; information and 2&gt; expertise to best make then decision.<br /><br />Saying &quot;one person needs to be responsible&quot; or &quot;each person much have a well defined fiefdom&quot; is conceptually simple but sacrifices organizational performance for simplicity in organizational structure. Saying &quot;this person is responsible for marketing, and he is responsible for technology&quot; divides decision marketing by roles.<br /><br />As an example, a hypothetical modern internet marketing campaign might require twitter/facebook integration with a web application, analytics functionality measuring the effectiveness of the marketing technique and A/B testing to optimize the marketing technique. Is this marketing campaign &quot;responsibility&quot; of engineering or the responsibility of marketing? Achieving even simple corporate goals requires behavior and decision making which cut across firm boundaries and roles.<br /><br />&quot;Responsibilities&quot; and &quot;decision making authority&quot; in an effective organization are delegated on the basis by expertise and knowledge, rather than by functional roles.<br /><br />You have to ask<br />1&gt; Which person or group has the knowledge to best make this decision<br />2&gt; Who has the expertise to make this decision<br /><br />On matters of design, defer decisions to a designer.<br /><br />Often a decision cuts across functional boundaries. A product feature decision requires<br /><br />1&gt; An conceptualization of the customer/user<br />2&gt; Ability to estimate the engineering complexity of the feature<br />3&gt; A set of criteria against which to evaluate the decision being made (what are the goals of the organization? Increase LTV, customer acquisition, reducing churn rates, etc...<br /><br />The first is a product manager/ customer development role. The second is an engineering role. The third is an executive role. It is the role of the executive to set organizational goals and define the criteria against which decisions will be judged.<br /><br />Decisions will be best made when the expertise (product/company Independent) and knowledge (product/company specific) required to make the decision are possessed by a single person. In the absence of an ubermensch who has broad company/product specific knowledge and an extremely high level of skill/expertise in multiple domains, decisions will be made by groups.<br /><br />MBA: &quot;I think that I am open to learning from others, but everyone else should just do what I say.&quot;</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_851"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">5</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Who-are-good-friends-of-Steve-Jobs/answer/Brandon-Smietana">Who are good friends of Steve Jobs?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_hbhk7Ta_truncated"><div id="ld_OtEogM_859"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>Larry Ellison. Larry Ellison is one of the major factors for why Steve Jobs was able to return to Apple and take control, after he was fired by th... <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_vK4WMbq_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_hbhk7Ta_expanded"><div id="ld_OtEogM_860">Larry Ellison. Larry Ellison is one of the major factors for why Steve Jobs was able to return to Apple and take control, after he was fired by the board of directors in ~1986.</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_OtEogM_852"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">6</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/How-can-angel-investment-in-DC-be-rapidly-expanded-in-2011/answer/Brandon-Smietana">How can angel investment in DC be rapidly expanded in 2011?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_gljWz1K_truncated"><div id="ld_OtEogM_861"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div><ol><li>Move a bunch of rich people to DC.</li><li>Move a bunch of startups to DC....</li></ol> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_MX9Ynsh_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_gljWz1K_expanded"><div id="ld_OtEogM_862"><ol><li>Move a bunch of rich people to DC.</li><li>Move a bunch of startups to DC.</li><li>Encourage rich people to join an angel group.</li></ol><br />Also consider<br /><ul><li>publicly funded or city subsidized coworking spaces for startups</li><li>hosting events and inviting speaker to give talks about angel investing and encourage formation of angel investing groups</li><li>encourag the formation of Hackerspaces, either through direct subsidies. Hackerspaces are organized as non-profits. Hackerspaces and coworking spaces rapidly increase the technical base of a cities and accelerate company formation.</li></ul><br />For instance<br /><br /><a href="http://www.angelblog.net/Exit_Strategies_for_Angel_Investors_Video.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.angelblog.net/<wbr />Exit_St...</a><br /><br />Forming angel groups is a very important part of the process of encouraging angel investments. 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