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Smietana</h1></div><div class="w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_43"><div class="user_topic_sig">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</div></div></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_44"><div class="tabs w8" style="margin-left:-10px;"><a class="link" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Profile</a><a class="link" href="/Brandon-Smietana/about">About <span class="light normal">(</span>6<span class="light normal">)</span></a><a class="link" href="/Brandon-Smietana/questions">Questions <span class="light normal">(</span>1267<span class="light normal">)</span></a><a class="link selected" href="/Brandon-Smietana/answers">Answers <span class="light normal">(</span>507<span class="light normal">)</span></a><a class="link" href="/Brandon-Smietana/log">Edits <span class="light normal">(</span>9240<span class="light normal">)</span></a></div></div></div><div class="col w4_5 main_col"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_45"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_52"><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_68"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_QN7RzQ0_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_89"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_129"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_289"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-much-does-Comcast-want-to-charge-L3-for-delivering-Netflix-movies" id="__w2_ozsTB2L_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_290"></span>How much does Comcast want to charge L3 for delivering Netflix movies?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_90"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_tJbKK0s_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_tJbKK0s_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_149"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_mrOb3ET_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_mrOb3ET_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_tJbKK0s_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_ZCJKSMn_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_ZCJKSMn_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_ZCJKSMn_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_tJbKK0s_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_150"></div></div></div>It is not public information at this point.<br /><br />I suspect however that Comcast will set a precedent and begin charging monopoly rents.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_tJbKK0s_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_151"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_f73HdqC_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_152"><a class="answer_permalink" 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answer_text" id="__w2_V6APh6F_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_V6APh6F_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_154"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_ZLi7LU6_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_ZLi7LU6_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_V6APh6F_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_P8BAXsr_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_P8BAXsr_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_P8BAXsr_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_V6APh6F_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_155"></div></div></div>Trademark key-word related to the domain and document a common law trademark.<br /><br />Then file an in-rem lawsuit against the domain.  Be sure to use a favorable jurisdiction.  Most domain owners will not pay for a lawyer (especially if your chosen jurisdiction is very far from where they live) and you will get a default judgement.  This works especially well when the cost of defending the lawsuit exceeds the value of the domain.<br /><br />If their registrar is in the US, then a court ruling in any state can compel the registrar to hand over the domain.  However, if they are using an off-shore registrar, you have to go through the ICANN resolution procedure.<br /><br />If an in-rem lawsuit does not work, then use the ICANN resolution procedure.<br /><br />Squatters have had thousands of their domains in inventory seized through in-rem lawsuits the ICANN dispute resolution procedures.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_V6APh6F_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_156"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_pmbOG9Y_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_157"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-can-I-get-a-domain-name-from-a-squatter/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_LtR7Ki1_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_251"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_158"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_Fusr4gD_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_252"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_70"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_SDD0gPN_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_93"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_131"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_293"></span><a class="question_link" href="/What-was-Operation-Aurora" id="__w2_cMhSKmP_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_294"></span>What was Operation Aurora?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_94"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_pAL1IdI_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_pAL1IdI_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_159"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_tnt0XHG_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_tnt0XHG_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_pAL1IdI_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_Uextuy1_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_Uextuy1_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_Uextuy1_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_pAL1IdI_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_160"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">1</strong> vote</span> by <a class="user" href="/Inigo-Sarmiento">Inigo Sarmiento</a></span></div></div></div>Google and about 50 other US companies were hacked and their source code was stolen.  This industrial espionage has been occurring since 1992.<br /><br />The source code stolen in Operation Aurora will make its way to Chinese companies and these companies will compete against American companies in the international market.<br /><br />Operation Aurora is just another case of state sponsored industrial espionage.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_pAL1IdI_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_161"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_zTKXUpx_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span 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answer_text" id="__w2_PPukY58_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_PPukY58_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_164"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_wVVaflU_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_wVVaflU_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_PPukY58_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_fasy7AA_link"><span class="rep" id="__w2_fasy7AA_sig">I write machine learning based s...</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_fasy7AA_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_fasy7AA_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_PPukY58_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_165"></div></div></div>Yes.<br /><br />There are contract clauses such as &quot;redemption rights&quot;, which the VC can exercise to force the company to buy-back the shares held by the VC.<br /><br />The redemption rights allow the VC to force the management into a liquidity event.  &quot;Sell the company or we will execute our redemption rights...&quot; and give the VCs leverage over management.<br /><br />If VCs trigger their redemption rights and the company fails to meet the obligation, the VCs may be able to take over the board of directors of the company.<br /><br />I am actually surprised that this does not happen more often.  I am not sure how popular redemption rights are today compared to a decade ago.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_PPukY58_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_166"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_CvG6VgK_view_comment_link">2 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_167"><a 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name="comment129406"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_Vee4JhX_comment"><p class="comment_text">Yes.  You are correct.<br /><br />Redemption rights are much more common on the east coast and for traditional venture capital.<br /><br />However, Silicon Valley VCs are less likely to need redemption rights because they are funding pre-revenue companies and often have effective board control.  2+2+1 with a VC affiliated &#039;independent&#039; director.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_VpLzYOL_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_72"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_bbZaIgP_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_97"><div 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Ellis</a></span></div></div></div>Web apps are more difficult to monetize.   I had a website with 250,000 MAU and we were barely able to break even on the server costs ($200/month).  Twitter&#039;s Average Revenue Per Users (ARPU) is zero.<br /><br />With desktop apps, people at least pay you money.<br /><br />Companies like Digg have 15 million a year in revenue on ads, but cannot even break even.  Digg without venture capital would be insolvent.  Myspace is losing money and has tens of millions of users.<br /><br />Facebook&#039;s eCPM rates on their ad inventory are lower than the eCPM rates on porn sites.<br /><br />It is extremely difficult to break even in web apps unless you can get users to pay you.  Your only exit options are acquisitions.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_YXMf8V5_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_171"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_v65Kj9m_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_172"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Why-do-most-funded-startups-have-web-based-products-while-desktop-producing-companies-usually-bootstrap/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_A1IHujM_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_257"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_173"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_k890dxW_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_258"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_73"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_BF0LzlC_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_99"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_134"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_299"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Why-do-humans-die" id="__w2_bDcClIq_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_300"></span>Why do humans die?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_100"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_CpPhvXd_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_CpPhvXd_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_174"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_ZKl5lXN_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_ZKl5lXN_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_CpPhvXd_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_wKjc5Ls_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_wKjc5Ls_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_wKjc5Ls_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_CpPhvXd_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_175"></div></div></div>The only thing that can kill a human is organ failure.<br /><br />All causes of death are a direct causal result of organ failure.<br /><br />The most common cause of death is heart failure.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_CpPhvXd_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_176"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_lty5yIh_view_comment_link">2 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_177"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Why-do-humans-die/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_mbRCOIt_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_259"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_178"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_dBCgh00_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_260"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_331"><a name="comment129414"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_RwFBCqF_comment"><p class="comment_text">True :(</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Matt-Langley">Matt Langley</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_NBWPIoN_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_332"><a name="comment129416"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_tuwWHV2_comment"><p class="comment_text">The good part, is that most organs are just mechanistic.<br /><br />The lungs are gas exchange membranes.<br /><br />The kidney filters out anything larger than an ion which has a large solvation shell.<br /><br />The heart just pumps blood.<br /><br />We can replicate and improve or replace most of the human organs.  We can even replace certain areas of the brain that have been reverse engineered and reimplemented in VLSI/silicon.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; 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</span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_182"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Which-fast-serial-algorithms-dont-have-efficient-parallel-equivalents/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_c2qgnF7_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_261"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_183"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_Gt5yU7N_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_262"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_75"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_xU5ZbT4_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_103"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_136"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_303"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Why-does-physical-space-have-3-dimensions" id="__w2_uMaHwnO_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_304"></span>Why does physical space have 3 dimensions?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_104"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_hRBONkN_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_hRBONkN_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_184"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_SAicGMk_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_SAicGMk_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_hRBONkN_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_BtNy7Fv_link"><span class="rep" id="__w2_BtNy7Fv_sig">Hilbert Spaces, Differential Geo...</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_BtNy7Fv_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_BtNy7Fv_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_hRBONkN_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_185"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Anthony-Foster">Anthony Foster</a> and <a class="user" href="/Martin-Jambon">Martin Jambon</a></span></div></div></div>The answer has something to do with group theory and the quaternions and the Clifford algebras.  <br /><br />Locally, our universe has a Lorentz transformation invariant geometry.  If you take Coulomb law + Lorentz invariance, you can prove maxwell&#039;s equations.<br /><br />There is a proof of this in:<br /><br />Principles of Electrodynamics <a href="http://amzn.to/fNNtZh" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://am<wbr />zn.to/fNNtZh</a><br /><br />Now, maxwell&#039;s equations have interesting symmetries that only make sense in 3 &#039;spatial&#039; dimensions and which cannot exist for any other dimension number.  The symmetry that contains our universe to three spatial dimensions is very closely related to quaternions and the cross-product operator.<br /><br />It turns out that our typical classical physics model is not invariant under all the unitary transformations on its coordinate system.  Maxwell&#039;s equations are invariant under rotations of the coordinate system, however any scalar defined in terms of a cross product is actually negated under a flip of the coordinates (parity).<br /><br />&lt;x | y &gt; = &lt; -x | -y &gt;<br /><br />Inner products are preserved under flipping.  However, for cross products,<br />a x b = -1* ( -a x -b)  , where a and b are vectors and x is the cross product operator.<br /><br />A scalar property defined as the inner product of a vector and the cross product of two vectors, is therefore not invariant under inversion of the coordinate system!<br />Some of the things physicists call scalars, are not actually scalars!  They are pseudo-scalars because they are not invariant under a unitary transformation of the coordinate system!<br /><br />This means the vector space is not actually a Hilbert Space and the vectors are not actually vectors, but &quot;pseudo-vectors&quot; (you have to rotate them through 4*pi radians on any axis to get back where they stated.  They are anti-symmetric under inversion of the coordinate system).  The inner product of a vector and a pseudo-vector is actually a pseudo-scalar, but physicists like to pretend that these are just scalars (but they are not).<br /><br />The unitary transformations are the isometries of the inner-product metric on the Hilbert Space and physicists often do not differentiate between the mathematics used to model/describe the system and the actual system state and therefore these confusions occur.<br /><br />The reason we have 3 dimensions is that the cross-product operator and the symmetries we observe, cannot exist in a higher or lower number of dimensions.<br /><br />The pseudo-scalars and pseudo-vectors operations you need only exist in certain dimension numbers, one of which is 3.  I think 4, 7, 11 and 21 also seem to work, but that there are only a small number possible dimensions due to mathematical symmetry constraints.<br /><br />I wish I could explain this better, but I am not an expert on the Clifford Algebras.<br />I think the answer is in this book:<br /><br />Space-Time Algebra <a href="http://amzn.to/dZjB4d" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.to/dZ<wbr />jB4d</a><br /><br />If you want conservation of energy, 1/r^2 laws or Lorentz invariance, you are mathematically constrained to a very small number of possible spatial dimensions.  If you throw away any of the implied symmetries, you end up with something that does not resemble our universe.<br /><br />Most of theoretical physics today is just thinly disguised group theory.<br /><br />For instance, &quot;conservation of energy&quot; is just invariance of a system&#039;s Hamiltonian func<wbr />tion under translation in time.  If something is true in physics, it is because a set of symmetries forces it to be true.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_hRBONkN_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_186"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_OhmC1iO_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_187"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Why-does-physical-space-have-3-dimensions/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_dMgxWVE_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_263"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_188"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_VuJax2U_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_264"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_76"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_NyeVYwP_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_105"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_137"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_305"></span><a class="question_link" href="/If-the-U-S-Capital-Gains-tax-rate-went-back-to-20-what-would-happen" id="__w2_lBP1332_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_306"></span>If the U.S. Capital Gains tax rate went back to 20%, what would happen?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_106"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_a1WfCco_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_a1WfCco_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_189"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_d9Yjxzr_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_d9Yjxzr_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_a1WfCco_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_NblDygA_link"><span class="rep" id="__w2_NblDygA_sig">I write machine learning based s...</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_NblDygA_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_NblDygA_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_a1WfCco_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_190"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a> and <a class="user" href="/Yaniv-Goldenrand">Yaniv Goldenrand</a></span></div></div></div>The capital gains tax is an implicit tax on wealth, because nominal increases in asset value are taxed and not the inflation adjusted purchasing power of the assets being held for investment.<br /><br />A 33% increase in the capital gains tax, to 20%, will severely erode capital accumulation in America (even more than the current 15% tax).<br /><br />The transition to a higher capital gains tax rate combined with a high inflation rate and currency devaluation could mark the end of the American empire.  An increase in the capital gains tax rate will accelerate capital flight.  It is believed by many economists that an increase in the capital gains tax rate will decrease tax revenues.<br /><br />Tax revenues are maximized when capital accumulation is maximized and economic studies suggest that tax revenue is maximized when the capital gains tax rates are zero.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_a1WfCco_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_191"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_H2Ke44M_view_comment_link">5 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_192"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/If-the-U-S-Capital-Gains-tax-rate-went-back-to-20-what-would-happen/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_tj7qsHR_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_265"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_193"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_qHC6LHU_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_266"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_333"><a name="comment127989"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_Fi6bYmt_comment"><p class="comment_text">The republican mantra that lower tax rates raise enough new taxes to replace that lost by a reduction in the rate has never been shown to be factual. During the Reagan tax cuts the economy recovered due to the action of the fed to stop inflation so there&#039;s no proof that the reduction in income taxes is what caused the increase in tax revenues. The GWBush tax cuts did not increase tax revenue so again there&#039;s no evidence.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Gary-Stein">Gary Stein</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_SPI71Z3_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_334"><a name="comment127993"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_DRXrfdN_comment"><p class="comment_text">I think that even if taxes were increased, the revenues would be spent inefficiently.<br /><br />They would not go towards education and infrastructure.  We allocate resources by political processes instead of a rational or quantitative process.<br /><br />The issue of capital accumulation is very important however.  Its up in the air what would happen.<br /><br />Looking at the tax law, instead of building a revenue generating company, I should be building companies to flip (turning income into long-term capital gains tax), unless the scale of the revenue of company is such that it could go public.<br /><br />Companies like Google do not pay taxes and they can afford to buy these little companies (and write off the costs as a deduction against their income).<br /><br />I think these tax rates distort or determine my behavior and my preferences and the ways in which I choose to generate wealth.  That distortion may not be good for the economy.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_SuTx0qE_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_335"><a name="comment127996"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_GNtcZzt_comment"><p class="comment_text">All those I agree with, it&#039;s just the old saw that lowering tax rates increases revenue that is wishful thinking. But I do agree with all your other comments.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Gary-Stein">Gary Stein</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_dNPZwuc_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_336"><a name="comment127998"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_GXX43GW_comment"><p class="comment_text">For instance, the wealthy allocate assets into classes that have favorable tax treatment, rather than asset classes that produce the greatest rates of returns.<br /><br />When real estate investment trusts had favorable policies with regard to loss deductions, there was a massive movement of capital into that asset class, despite poor returns.  When the favorable tax treatme<wbr />nt ended, there was capital flight out of the asset class.<br /><br />Same with the savings and loans crisis...<br /><br />Today, stock ownership / capital gains from stock appreciation has favorable treatment compared to dividends.<br /><br />The result is that people prefer large companies like Google to invest revenue internally and achieve asset appreciation of Google stock, instead of issuing a dividend.  With a dividend, people would be able to reinvest the capital in the asset class with the highest growth, instead of the default decision of having the money reinvested in the company that generated it (at a comparably lower rate of return).<br /><br />This is great for large companies, because it lowers their cost of capital.  However, it is bad for investors because it lowers their rate of return.<br /><br />However, it is good for investors because it allows them to defer capital gains tax until the sale of the assets and for their capital to compound without constant taxation.<br /><br />I think the point is that if we tax investment at 50% per year, we are decreasing the rate of capital accumulation/formation by half.<br /><br />I think the US should do  fair-tax and eliminate or lower capital gains taxes to ~10% and dividends/capital gains should be treated identically. Short-term capital gains should be lowered to the level of long-term rates.<br /><br />The US should become a tax haven for foreign investment.<br /><br />A consumption based tax makes more sense than an income tax, especially from the perspective of capital accumulation.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_RMIPHkI_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_337"><a name="comment128002"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_tyZ1Rw9_comment"><p class="comment_text">Actually though due to the Feds artificially keeping interest rates low. There is a huge demand for returns thus members of the Dividend Arstocrats of the S&amp;P are being bid up due to exceptional demand and there is a great deal of pressure being put on the Ciscos, Apples, Amazons to pay a dividend even though as you say capital gains receives a better tax treatment then do dividends.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Gary-Stein">Gary Stein</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_MdKlAA5_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_77"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_U7kmcxo_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_107"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_138"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_307"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-did-Mark-Zuckerberg-retain-26-of-equity-after-so-many-rounds-of-financing" id="__w2_ZRl35zx_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_308"></span>How did Mark Zuckerberg retain 26% of equity after so many rounds of financing?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_108"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_BSxqogK_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_BSxqogK_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_194"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_RYaEYDS_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_RYaEYDS_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_BSxqogK_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_evQmrFn_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_evQmrFn_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_evQmrFn_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_BSxqogK_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_195"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">32</strong> votes</span> by <span id="__w2_uP6qKWp_view_all"><a class="user" href="/Philip-Mikal">Philip Mikal</a>, Anon User, <a class="user" href="/Mike-Mimbo">Mike Mimbo</a>, </span> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_uP6qKWp_view_all_link">(more)</a><span class="hidden" id="__w2_uP6qKWp_all_phrases"><a class="user" href="/Philip-Mikal">Philip Mikal</a>, Anon User, <a class="user" href="/Mike-Mimbo">Mike Mimbo</a>, <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a>, <a class="user" href="/Matt-Langley">Matt Langley</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ayo-Omojola">Ayo Omojola</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ori-Barbut">Ori Barbut</a>, <a class="user" href="/Janusz-Jamrozik">Janusz Jamrozik</a>, <a class="user" href="/Matthew-Hill">Matthew Hill</a>, <a class="user" href="/Patrick-A-Foley">Patrick A Foley</a>, <a class="user" href="/Gene-Folgo">Gene Folgo</a>, <a class="user" href="/Arjun-Sethi">Arjun Sethi</a>, <a class="user" href="/Yishan-Wong">Yishan Wong</a>, <a class="user" href="/Sasha-Katsnelson">Sasha Katsnelson</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ashot-Petrosian">Ashot Petrosian</a>, <a class="user" href="/Saul-Lustgarten">Saul Lustgarten</a>, <a class="user" href="/Neeraj-Agrawal">Neeraj Agrawal</a>, <a class="user" href="/Andrew-Boz-Bosworth">Andrew &#039;Boz&#039; Bosworth</a>, <a class="user" href="/Phil-Wolff">Phil Wolff</a>, <a class="user" href="/Chetan-Conikee">Chetan Conikee</a>, <a class="user" href="/Tyler-Willis">Tyler Willis</a>, <a class="user" href="/Mircea-Goia">Mircea Goia</a>, <a class="user" href="/Asics-Yao">Asics Yao</a>, <a class="user" href="/Justin-Cambria">Justin Cambria</a>, <a class="user" href="/Tzury-Bar-Yochay">Tzury Bar Yochay</a>, <a class="user" href="/Murtaza-Ali-Akbar">Murtaza Ali Akbar</a>, <a class="user" href="/Borislav-Agapiev">Borislav Agapiev</a>, <a class="user" href="/Daniel-Waldron">Daniel Waldron</a>, <a class="user" href="/Bharanidharan-Viswanathan-1">Bharanidharan Viswanathan</a>, <a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a>, <a class="user" href="/Amit-Chaudhary">Amit Chaudhary</a> and Anon User</span></span></div></div></div>There are several factors<br /><br /><ul><li>Mark Zuckerberg retained board control and therefore was able to block dilutive and unnecessary &quot;inside&quot; rounds.</li><li>Facebook was break-even on gifts and display advertising by the time of its VC rounds.  Your valuation is much higher if you have revenues.</li><li>Facebook&#039;s early investors were very prominent and they bid up Facebook&#039;s valuation.  The social connection of the early employees and high profile angels (Anderson, Thiel) ensured that Facebook had many high profile venture firms interested in the company.  This was essential to establishing a competitive valuation process.</li><li>Facebook had multiple offers and was able to start a valuation bidding war between investors.  If you have multiple interested investors, you will have a better valuation.  It is impossible to have a competitive valuation process with only a single interested investor.</li><li>Sean Parker.</li></ul><div class="action_bar" id="__w2_BSxqogK_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_196"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_WUY5U5f_view_comment_link">15 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_197"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-did-Mark-Zuckerberg-retain-26-of-equity-after-so-many-rounds-of-financing/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_DLRQ1Ar_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_267"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_198"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_cZ79Rre_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_268"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_338"><a name="comment127255"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_d43vUKf_comment"><p class="comment_text">I still don not understand how this can happen. If he himself did not get diluted, someone got to be diluted. and the question is &quot;who are they? early employees or early investors&quot;</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Sean-Yang">Sean Yang</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_XP0s9fK_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_339"><a name="comment127356"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_cJUMtlc_comment"><p class="comment_text">He did get diluted (he owns 26%, not 100%)</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_L8KyKs7_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_340"><a name="comment127495"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_kE7ZQqu_comment"><p class="comment_text">Maybe Eduardo Saverin&#039;s shares got dilluted a lot.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Mircea-Goia">Mircea Goia</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_IYYJrJd_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_341"><div class="comment comment_dotdotdot p0_5"><a class="supp" href="#" onclick="$(&#039;.hidden_comments_161241&#039;).toggleClass(&#039;hidden&#039;);
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and <a class="user" href="/Carlos-Leiva-Burotto">Carlos Leiva Burotto</a></span></span></div></div></div>I have met a bunch of interesting people who have cold-called me because they read something I wrote.<br /><br />Many people would be upset if messaging other users was banned unless you are following each other.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_RIbWIBj_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_799"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_yBMIqGG_view_comment_link">1 Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_800"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Is-it-acceptable-to-cold-call-someone-via-private-message-on-Quora/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_w61cuus_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_894"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_801"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_sGeSQDQ_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_895"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_972"><a name="comment136630"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_TxnJR0o_comment"><p class="comment_text">Agree, Messaging should remain open. Quora provides this awesome platform to connect with brilliant folks in various fields. If needed, spam control and possibly three strikes to block a person from any future communication could be implemented.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Murali-Veeraiyan">Murali Veeraiyan</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_ff95xFN_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_5sX5ZH_713"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_gNq7ZAj_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_736"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_774"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_936"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Are-there-any-of-Chinas-50-Cent-Army-paid-propagandists-members-on-Quora" id="__w2_KKIX6PY_link"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_937"></span>Are there any of China&#039;s &quot;50 Cent Army&quot; (paid propagandists) members on Quora?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_737"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_m6TPgVy_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_m6TPgVy_answer_voting"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_802"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_oQ1fZuM_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_oQ1fZuM_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_m6TPgVy_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_HWIsdMq_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_HWIsdMq_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_HWIsdMq_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_m6TPgVy_answer_voters"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_803"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Kevin-Meyerson">Kevin Meyerson</a> and Anon User</span></div></div></div>Yes.<br /><br />Quora is a very useful source of competitive intelligence on people and companies.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_m6TPgVy_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_804"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_ttnPOAy_view_comment_link">14 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_805"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Are-there-any-of-Chinas-50-Cent-Army-paid-propagandists-members-on-Quora/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_ssETGXm_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_896"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_806"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_gKC3Wtq_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_897"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_973"><a name="comment134956"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_tXXQg6l_comment"><p class="comment_text">Who?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Mike-Mimbo">Mike Mimbo</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_HXc7NXj_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_974"><a name="comment134963"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_zEJg5uJ_comment"><p class="comment_text">Are you one of them?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Yishan-Wong">Yishan Wong</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_UCCbKqo_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_975"><a name="comment134965"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_IKMD7DC_comment"><p class="comment_text">Are you asking me or Brandon?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Mike-Mimbo">Mike Mimbo</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_VitHd1n_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_976"><div class="comment comment_dotdotdot p0_5"><a class="supp" href="#" onclick="$(&#039;.hidden_comments_171496&#039;).toggleClass(&#039;hidden&#039;);
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Saverin won in court; the court verified 7% ownership.&quot;<br /><br />This happens, but its rare that it goes to court and it is even rarer that the court rules against the company.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_CoJ0FCK_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_370"><a name="comment127528"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_BvzpJr3_comment"><p class="comment_text">&quot;On October 31, 2004, Eduardo signed a shareholder agreement that alloted him 3 million shares of common stock in the new company. In the agreement, he handed over all relevant intellectual property and turned over his voting rights to Mark Zuckerberg. Mark became Facebook&#039;s sole director.<br />On January 7, 2005, Mark caused Facebook to issue 9 million shares of common stock in the new company. He took 3.3. million shares for himself and gave 2 million to Sean Parker and 2 million to Dustin Moskovitz. This share issuance instantly diluted Eduardo&#039;s stake in the company from ~24% to below 10%.&quot;<br />I am surprised that the court ruled in favor of Eduardo.  Its extremely rare.  Directors are given a very wide discretion.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_DaOJR0h_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_371"><a name="comment127569"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_hr2mTGx_comment"><p class="comment_text">Well, he should praise the God of startups that he got lucky to get something back :). He is worth now almost a billion...what more can he ask?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Mircea-Goia">Mircea Goia</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_TJzGqa7_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_372"><a name="comment127691"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_HQKNMpg_comment"><p class="comment_text">Wait so after Sean Parker was diluted, how many shares did Mark hold? And if I understand correctly you&#039;re saying Sean Parker&#039;s previous experience with being screwed over and dealing with equity issues helped Mark right?</p><p class="action_bar">Anon User<span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_UX5WbNB_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_373"><a name="comment127760"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_cDqs4xQ_comment"><p class="comment_text">I think what we need here is someone to give us a detailed rundown on all the dirty tricks a VC can potentially play on eager naive entrepreneurs.  Im not saying all VCs are bad but Im sure there are the bad apples there, and thats who we need to watch out for!  So does someone have a checklist of the most common things to o&#039;watch out for&#039; ?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Rajeev-Sharma">Rajeev Sharma</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_xbS8uqx_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_374"><a name="comment127772"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_qJ95Myb_comment"><p class="comment_text">Yes, Rajeev, it is called &quot;your lawyer.&quot;</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_oi9AjOP_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_375"><a name="comment127790"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_OEOxjso_comment"><p class="comment_text">:-) you;re right. sorry was that a dumb question!</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Rajeev-Sharma">Rajeev Sharma</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_jN93iT4_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_376"><a name="comment127861"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_lrDS0YG_comment"><p class="comment_text">Sorry....that was a little glib.  It is worth understanding all of the ins and outs of financing and what you should ask for when.  However it always comes down to a few moments when you have a decision to either sign something or not sign it, and at that point you have to have a lawyer you trust completely.  (Eduardo Saverin did not have a lawyer when he signed the fateful docs!)</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_AK9j4DW_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_377"><a name="comment127872"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_W2ZH6Wc_comment"><p class="comment_text">&quot;And if I understand correctly you&#039;re saying Sean Parker&#039;s previous experience with being screwed over and dealing with equity issues helped Mark right?&quot;<br /><br />Oh ya.  Sean Parker is a veteran with being screwed over by VCs.  He was kicked out of 3 companies in a row, by the investors.<br /><br />Sean Parker is obviously extremely brilliant, but he is a flawed character and has a personality and style that does not jibe with investors.<br /><br />Sean Parker is a modern day Jim Clark and entrepreneurial anti-<wbr />hero.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_WpJoJ1S_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_342"><a name="comment128378"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_OCW0PIJ_comment"><p class="comment_text">Very good overall response.<br />I would suggest impact of putting acquirers against investors as an additional reason for better valuation. And using partnerships as investments at high valuation.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Amit-Chaudhary">Amit Chaudhary</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_gwgVDxi_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_343"><a name="comment128446"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_FCRU2Pr_comment"><p class="comment_text">&quot;Mark Zuckerberg retained board control and therefore was able to block dilutive and unnecessary &quot;inside&quot; rounds.&quot; Can you describe what an inside round is, and how it would be used?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Shervin-Talieh">Shervin Talieh</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_qTssnxq_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_78"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_gIhSX0h_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_109"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_139"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_309"></span><a class="question_link" href="/When-seeking-someone-in-a-coffee-shop-whom-youve-never-seen-before-what-are-some-useful-tips" id="__w2_Myj5bpN_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_310"></span>When seeking someone in a coffee shop whom you&#039;ve never seen before, what are some useful tips?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_110"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_KZqCFlk_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_KZqCFlk_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_199"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_n3VCsT7_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_n3VCsT7_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_KZqCFlk_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_BkNHF6M_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_BkNHF6M_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_BkNHF6M_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_KZqCFlk_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_200"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">4</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a>, <a class="user" href="/Jonathan-Brill">Jonathan Brill</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a> and <a class="user" href="/John-Marsland">John Marsland</a></span></div></div></div>I would use an SMS gateway to send 256 text messages to their cell phone and then look for the person whose phone is going berserk.<br /><br />See: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SMS_gateways" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://en.wikipedia.org/w<wbr />iki/Lis...</a><div class="action_bar" id="__w2_KZqCFlk_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_201"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_rcKPUnW_view_comment_link">2 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_202"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/When-seeking-someone-in-a-coffee-shop-whom-youve-never-seen-before-what-are-some-useful-tips/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_YslH1lL_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_269"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_203"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_achH2wZ_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_270"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_344"><a name="comment127207"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_HE8HxDC_comment"><p class="comment_text">I always get their mobile number before the meeting, and i call them at the exact time we were supposed to meet. Either i see them answer their phone or they tell me where they&#039;re at and then I just look for the next rushed person who runs through the door scanning faces to find me.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Jonathan-Brill">Jonathan Brill</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_IvQyvC3_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_345"><a name="comment127210"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_Pw5vL6L_comment"><p class="comment_text">That works too.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_sWExVdF_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_79"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_Mz8gRvp_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_111"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_140"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_311"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Would-it-help-employment-if-we-went-back-to-less-efficient-ways-of-doing-things" id="__w2_kfwRtqB_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_312"></span>Would it help employment if we went back to less efficient ways of doing things?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_112"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_dDhTLyD_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_dDhTLyD_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_204"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_EGdOHU2_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_EGdOHU2_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_dDhTLyD_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_YIohdyF_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_YIohdyF_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_YIohdyF_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_dDhTLyD_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_205"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">1</strong> vote</span> by <a class="user" href="/Eric-Shull">Eric Shull</a></span></div></div></div>Employment would increase, but prices would go back up.<br /><br />Low wages result in lower prices for consumer goods.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_dDhTLyD_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_206"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_QY0BC2P_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_207"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Would-it-help-employment-if-we-went-back-to-less-efficient-ways-of-doing-things/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_NpIwjJJ_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_271"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_208"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_qMTkWJ8_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_272"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_80"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_UbsAXse_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_113"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_141"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_313"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-soon-before-the-secondary-equity-markets-come-under-regulatory-scrutiny" id="__w2_y8LMlQx_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_314"></span>How soon before the secondary equity markets come under regulatory scrutiny?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_114"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_Jhj91uQ_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_Jhj91uQ_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_209"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_LX6zalu_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_LX6zalu_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_Jhj91uQ_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_u21AOMz_link"><span class="rep" id="__w2_u21AOMz_sig">I write machine learning based s...</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_u21AOMz_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_u21AOMz_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_Jhj91uQ_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_210"></div></div></div>Not long.  Investment banks make a premium in transaction costs because of market illiquidity in privately held securities.  I believe the existing investment banks will lobby to undermine secondary market liquidity and push for heavy and burdensome regulation.<br /><br />This what Goldman Sachs did to address the threat of electronic exchanges for OTC which side stepped the investment banks (Goldman now generates most of its revenue from the transaction costs on these instruments as OTC trading on exchanges its prohibitively regulated).<br /><br />Direct public offerings and other means of increasing liquidity and decreasing financial tran<wbr />saction costs for currently illiquid securities were regulated with prohibitive and very restrictive financial information disclosure requirements that reduced their attractiveness.<br /><br />Obviously we cannot have companies communicating with investors directly over the internet to perform their public offerings as that would cut out the investment banks.<br /><br />For some idea of what kind of regulations will be used to kill liquidity on the secondary markets,<br /><br />See: <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=831906" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://papers.ssrn.c<wbr />om/sol3/pape...</a><div class="action_bar" id="__w2_Jhj91uQ_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_211"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_YCETeNG_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_212"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-soon-before-the-secondary-equity-markets-come-under-regulatory-scrutiny/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_w18MAqI_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_273"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_213"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_YW8w6F0_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_274"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_81"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_Us9pNB9_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_115"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_142"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_315"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Does-the-Silicon-Valley-mindset-give-companies-a-pass-for-not-having-a-business-model-because-that-would-hinder-innovation" id="__w2_mDdXcCt_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_316"><span class="best_source_icon" id="__w2_DE0oB4c_icon"></span></span>Does the Silicon Valley mindset give companies a pass for not having a business model because that would hinder innovation?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_116"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_GgzGWMD_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_GgzGWMD_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_214"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_SRLdUhi_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_SRLdUhi_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_GgzGWMD_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_No9RGxp_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_No9RGxp_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_No9RGxp_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_GgzGWMD_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_215"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">3</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Matt-Scullin">Matt Scullin</a>, <a class="user" href="/Alexander-Dominic-Horré">Alexander Dominic Horré</a> and <a class="user" href="/Ori-Barbut">Ori Barbut</a></span></div></div></div>There are two types of companies.  There are web 2.0 companies that have lots of eye-balls (content) and there are companies with business models.<br /><br />For instance, tech crunch sold for 40 million.<br /><br />If you have a startup with 6000 subscribers at $30/month and you sell your company for 20x earnings.  That is 43 million dollars.<br /><br />If you are ad supported and your eCPM rate is $0.05 cents (like Facebook/4-Chan/Dating sites), then you need 3.6 billion page views per month to hit 40 million valuation at 20x earnings.<br /><br />Alternatively, you can find 60 companies that will pay you $3000 a month for a service (SaS) and have a 40 million valuation at 20x earnings.<br /><br />The idea behind many of these Web 2.0 sites like Slide and Path is not to make money.  The idea is that Google and Microsoft have made offers for twitter that value the company at over $60 per active user.<br /><br />The assets of the company are the employees, the platform and user-base; not the revenue stream of the company.<br /><br />It would probably be more effective for Google to pay people $60 per active Buzz user they sign up, than to buy Twitter at $60/user, but they will try to buy Twitter anyways.  Yahoo made an offer to Facebook of $260 per user.  Will Facebook even be able to realize revenues of $260 per user over the lifetime of the user?<br /><br />Companies will pay a premium to acquire platform control and to buy companies like Path to acquire their user-bases.  It is not very clear why they will pay a premium for these users if they have no effective way of monetizing the user-base.<br /><br />Technology companies in general do not pay dividends and often have a cash hoard they need to get rid of.  Google has so much money that it is opening up a corporate bond trading desk to invest it.  Maybe a 300 million dollar acquisition of a company like Slide at $50 a user increases the market cap of companies like Google, more than the loss of cash decreases the market cap of these companies.<br /><br />Historically, most mergers and acquisitions are futile and are a waste of money.  Sometimes they are strategic, but more often they are represent a net loss of value for the acquiring company, but companies keep doing these large value destroying acquisitions f<wbr />or unknown reasons.<br /><br />People will continue to start companies with no business model and no expectations for revenue, as long as these companies continue to be bought.<br /><br />Smaller, early stage acquisitions howeve<wbr />r can create value and are a valuable source of new products and technological innovations.  This is one reasons angel portfolios have been doing so well in recent years.  These companies usually exit below 30 million and the returns are too small to interest traditional VC funds, but they have been out-performing VC by a wide margin.<br /><br />I think there is still however a whole cottage industry of building up companies with no revenue and flipping them (ex. Twitter).  Only a few very high profile investors with strong connections to the potential acquiring companies will be able to generate returns on these companies however.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_GgzGWMD_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_216"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_XUTmDMd_view_comment_link">7 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_217"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Does-the-Silicon-Valley-mindset-give-companies-a-pass-for-not-having-a-business-model-because-that-would-hinder-innovation/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_c19VrKc_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_275"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_218"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_ButFg9j_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_276"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_346"><a name="comment125063"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_pJ53Y5Q_comment"><p class="comment_text">&quot;Historically, most mergers and acquisitions are futile and are a waste of money.  Sometimes they are strategic, but more often they are represent a net loss of value for the acquiring company, but companies keep doing these large value destroying acquisitions f<wbr />or unknown reasons.&quot;<br /><br />These deals are driven by investment banks, who generate handsome fees from these deals. For large company CEOs, these acquisitions offer a fast way to show their board that they can continue fast growth. Then they exit, passing the problem on to the next guy.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Paul-Denlinger">Paul Denlinger</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_ApfpGaB_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_347"><a name="comment125065"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_kuUXi8u_comment"><p class="comment_text">Paul, that is a good point.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_H1eUJdi_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_348"><a name="comment125071"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_NiZvkDp_comment"><p class="comment_text">One need only look at Apples acquisition list to see that Steve Jobs has a finely tuned understanding of this dynamic. The largest acquisition Apple has made was pre Jobs and it was the purchase of Next in order to get him back to Apple after that all Apple buys have been much smaller.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Gary-Stein">Gary Stein</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_ujRjtId_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_349"><div class="comment comment_dotdotdot p0_5"><a class="supp" href="#" onclick="$(&#039;.hidden_comments_158651&#039;).toggleClass(&#039;hidden&#039;);
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He typically has rather intelligent replies, and I doubt he wants to portray himself as a biased hack to the Silicon Valley community.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Mike-Mimbo">Mike Mimbo</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_Qto4HTZ_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1015"><a name="comment134975"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_NJQiKqH_comment"><p class="comment_text">My interview handler at the 50 Cent Army told me that my application was rejected because a CIA agent spotted my low-level heckling on Quora. I&#039;m trying to find more documentation on Wikileaky</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Lynn-Tao">Lynn Tao</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_xaeZz1v_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1016"><a name="comment135009"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_dUPdJni_comment"><p class="comment_text">I doubt Brandon&#039;s going to back up his position, and it&#039;s a bit unfair for him on this topic at the very least.  It&#039;s pure hearsay, and IMO mostly misguided for the most part.  I, for one, am rather intrigued at Brandon&#039;s overall position on the topics at hand, however.  From what I&#039;ve seen (albeit there isn&#039;t a whole lot), it goes against his public persona of intellectual honesty among other things.  I&#039;d certainly be interested in hearing his position(s) in the future.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Mike-Mimbo">Mike Mimbo</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_oRjU4k2_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1017"><a name="comment135065"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_uPbNc2z_comment"><p class="comment_text">&gt;I am wondering if Brandon can in turn back up his allegations.<br /><br />I cannot vouch for Zhang.  However, I know the answer is yes to this question; because I saw one.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_kyklNV0_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1018"><a name="comment135076"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_I9zWVBd_comment"><p class="comment_text">&quot;He typically has rather intelligent replies, and I doubt he wants to portray himself as a biased hack to the Silicon Valley community.&quot;   I honestly think there are 50 cent members on Quora.  China&#039;s international activities are rather broad.<br /><br />I saw some suspicious voting patterns on one question.  Bayes&#039; theorem say that it is more likely than not, than not.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_tGwgBeS_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1019"><a name="comment135080"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_ukV37V8_comment"><p class="comment_text">To be honest, I&#039;m not inclined to doubt you.  Which question?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Mike-Mimbo">Mike Mimbo</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_YDkAAVg_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1020"><a name="comment135086"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_hVuuJ5s_comment"><p class="comment_text">Guess you don&#039;t really know what 50c does. They are to influence people&#039;s opinion, not collect intelligence</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Richard-Liu-1">Richard Liu</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_lc4yhGA_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1021"><a name="comment135095"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_xHi02Xy_comment"><p class="comment_text">50 Cent Party influences opinions and collects information.<br /><br />Here is a good video overview by Far East Economic Review:<br /><b><i>David Bandursky interview </i></b><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpomfqb3QVY" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://www.youtube.com/wa<wbr />tch?v=Z...</a></p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Kevin-Meyerson">Kevin Meyerson</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_QNze2xY_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_977"><a name="comment135098"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_QmqyZmc_comment"><p class="comment_text">Well, Brandon has a point to a degree, but I sense fear when there&#039;s no reason for it.  Isn&#039;t that the entire point of the Internet?  It&#039;s a 2-way street.  Anyone can access any one else&#039;s websites.  If you want to jump on <a href="http://Sina.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">Sina.com</a> or Baidu, by all means you can.  Same for any other country in the world.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Mike-Mimbo">Mike Mimbo</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; 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so hard to read?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_739"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_krxAH7X_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_krxAH7X_answer_voting"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_807"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_USCXGGD_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_USCXGGD_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_krxAH7X_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_UQIYJbk_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_UQIYJbk_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_UQIYJbk_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_krxAH7X_answer_voters"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_808"></div></div></div>He took his course notes and self-published.<br /><br />The binding on the book is horrible and the print is ugly and the alignment of the text in the book is off and the book is way over priced; but its content is good, but was not designed to be a coherent book.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_krxAH7X_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_809"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_PSpBHSO_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_810"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Why-is-The-Four-Steps-to-the-Epiphany-so-hard-to-read/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_r1v9x6E_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_898"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_811"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_mlTBQpM_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_899"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_5sX5ZH_715"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_EbkHCpw_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_740"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_776"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_940"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Is-it-possible-to-start-algorithmic-trading-on-a-budget-(ie-from-a-bedroom-)" id="__w2_TknccU4_link"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_941"></span>Is it possible to start algorithmic trading on a budget (ie &quot;from a bedroom&quot;)?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_741"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_xU5lqHE_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_xU5lqHE_answer_voting"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_812"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_YpdTHWG_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_YpdTHWG_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_xU5lqHE_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_LmbnNoA_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_LmbnNoA_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_LmbnNoA_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_xU5lqHE_answer_voters"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_813"></div></div></div>You need 10k in an IB account and you get access to most of the data you need to start prototyping and back-testing algorithms.<br /><br />After that, if you can show your strategy works, you may be able to get more capital.  For trading on your own money, I think you need a bit more than 10k.  10k is great for OTC/Pink Sheet stocks (which are easier to do algorithmic trading in, because the larger firms are not interested).<br /><br />If you have a small amount of capital, focus on the smaller cap stocks.  The lager, more sophisticated firms have too much capital to even bother with them.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_xU5lqHE_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_814"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_Jlz23HE_view_comment_link">5 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_815"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Is-it-possible-to-start-algorithmic-trading-on-a-budget-(ie-from-a-bedroom-)/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_cAOiXj0_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_900"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_816"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_L2nkPeW_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_901"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_979"><a name="comment133031"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_CXfleNU_comment"><p class="comment_text">Some of the smaller cap stocks will only have one or two market makers, and you will see spreads open up when they are paying attention to other stocks or (evidently) going to lunch.  You don&#039;t have to beat the market maker, just exploit the prices that can be had at different times of the day.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Bill-McDonald">Bill McDonald</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_FTBGkua_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_980"><a name="comment133061"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_Wp6aZpl_comment"><p class="comment_text">That is interesting.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_oEX7tb0_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_981"><a name="comment133063"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_srC7BcA_comment"><p class="comment_text">So you just look at the mean spread for the stock and assume the spread will eventually revert to the mean and then arbitrage it.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_nTPAOKn_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_982"><a name="comment133082"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_MxIe9dA_comment"><p class="comment_text">It is usually not so direct with the thin stocks. You look at the trading and on similar stocks and try to figure out what is going on.  <br /><br />One thing that&#039;s easy to see is reversion to a key number, often an round number like $5.00 or $ 10.<br /><br />Often you can find out which firms trade stock X and see what other stocks they play with  - let&#039;s say A through H.  See what happens when stock D gets a takeover offer and volume goes through the roof - do the rest of the stocks trade rationally or erratically ?<br /><br />Once you think you know, you then pick the algorithm, or decide to look at other stocks.<br /><br />I should emphasize that this is as exciting as  watching paint dry, with the same level of intellectual stimulation.<br /><br />I have not looked to see if there was a range of stocks say those at the bottom of the Russel 2000 or just outside, that behave better.<br /><br />You do all this work, and then you scalp 75 cents on a 15 dollar stock  about once every 4 months.<br /><br />What&#039;s is bad is that a few thousand dollars can often move the stock, so you create slippage that works against you.  This limits how much capital you can use.  So you do the work, but your reward from a specific stock is limited.<br /><br />This is enough to drive people to drink or value investing.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Bill-McDonald">Bill McDonald</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; 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</span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_825"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-much-does-Comcast-want-to-charge-L3-for-delivering-Netflix-movies/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_tCaO9U5_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_904"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_826"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_e5p26r3_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_905"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_5sX5ZH_718"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_qldKEy3_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_746"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_779"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_946"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-can-I-get-a-domain-name-from-a-squatter" id="__w2_P5avS9A_link"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_947"></span>How can I get a domain name from a squatter?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_747"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_xpgIb7K_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_xpgIb7K_answer_voting"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_827"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_Au8aHJh_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_Au8aHJh_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_xpgIb7K_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_CnPIqr5_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_CnPIqr5_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_CnPIqr5_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_xpgIb7K_answer_voters"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_828"></div></div></div>Trademark key-word related to the domain and document a common law trademark.<br /><br />Then file an in-rem lawsuit against the domain.  Be sure to use a favorable jurisdiction.  Most domain owners will not pay for a lawyer (especially if your chosen jurisdiction is very far from where they live) and you will get a default judgement.  This works especially well when the cost of defending the lawsuit exceeds the value of the domain.<br /><br />If their registrar is in the US, then a court ruling in any state can compel the registrar to hand over the domain.  However, if they are using an off-shore registrar, you have to go through the ICANN resolution procedure.<br /><br />If an in-rem lawsuit does not work, then use the ICANN resolution procedure.<br /><br />Squatters have had thousands of their domains in inventory seized through in-rem lawsuits the ICANN dispute resolution procedures.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_xpgIb7K_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_829"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_G6iArvE_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; 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and give the VCs leverage over management.<br /><br />If VCs trigger their redemption rights and the company fails to meet the obligation, the VCs may be able to take over the board of directors of the company.<br /><br />I am actually surprised that this does not happen more often.  I am not sure how popular redemption rights are today compared to a decade ago.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_Q7yW0gV_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_839"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_lTKSkeF_view_comment_link">2 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_840"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Can-venture-capitalists-take-back-their-money/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_JSTvj8f_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_910"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_841"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_kXCbWEV_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_911"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_984"><a name="comment129383"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_ESeGACD_comment"><p class="comment_text">According to the Fenwick and West survey only ~20% of venture deals in silicon valley have redemption rights and from experience I would say that most of those are redemption rights that can&#039;t be exercised for 5+ years after the initial investment</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Gus-Fuldner">Gus Fuldner</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; 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Ellis</a></span></div></div></div>Web apps are more difficult to monetize.   I had a website with 250,000 MAU and we were barely able to break even on the server costs ($200/month).  Twitter&#039;s Average Revenue Per Users (ARPU) is zero.<br /><br />With desktop apps, people at least pay you money.<br /><br />Companies like Digg have 15 million a year in revenue on ads, but cannot even break even.  Digg without venture capital would be insolvent.  Myspace is losing money and has tens of millions of users.<br /><br />Facebook&#039;s eCPM rates on their ad inventory are lower than the eCPM rates on porn sites.<br /><br />It is extremely difficult to break even in web apps unless you can get users to pay you.  Your only exit options are acquisitions.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_coMdxxY_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_844"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_FzzysQ9_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_845"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Why-do-most-funded-startups-have-Web-based-products-while-desktop-producing-companies-usually-bootstrap/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_TCzkqkU_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_912"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_846"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_QMRvUgy_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_913"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_5sX5ZH_722"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_KGyqTNz_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_754"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_783"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_954"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Why-do-humans-die" id="__w2_UX2WrMZ_link"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_955"></span>Why do humans die?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_755"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_EwYrlnO_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_EwYrlnO_answer_voting"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_847"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_yNfY2to_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_yNfY2to_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_EwYrlnO_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_xlEGG3R_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_xlEGG3R_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_xlEGG3R_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_EwYrlnO_answer_voters"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_848"></div></div></div>The only thing that can kill a human is organ failure.<br /><br />All causes of death are a direct causal result of organ failure.<br /><br />The most common cause of death is heart failure.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_EwYrlnO_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_849"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_bwbnfcD_view_comment_link">2 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_850"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Why-do-humans-die/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_EaIewCk_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_914"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_851"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_cSnj8CU_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_915"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_986"><a name="comment129414"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_t36opel_comment"><p class="comment_text">True :(</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Matt-Langley">Matt Langley</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_WvUHGi7_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_987"><a name="comment129416"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_tznkMbF_comment"><p class="comment_text">The good part, is that most organs are just mechanistic.<br /><br />The lungs are gas exchange membranes.<br /><br />The kidney filters out anything larger than an ion which has a large solvation shell.<br /><br />The heart just pumps blood.<br /><br />We can replicate and improve or replace most of the human organs.  We can even replace certain areas of the brain that have been reverse engineered and reimplemented in VLSI/silicon.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; 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</span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_855"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Which-fast-serial-algorithms-dont-have-efficient-parallel-equivalents/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_Me9yhRW_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_916"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_856"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_pCKuYNo_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_917"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_5sX5ZH_724"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_gy23h1w_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_758"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_785"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_958"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Why-does-physical-space-have-3-dimensions" id="__w2_AQR7vWt_link"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_959"></span>Why does physical space have 3 dimensions?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_759"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_xLAOE1d_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_xLAOE1d_answer_voting"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_857"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_S7CnHbo_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_S7CnHbo_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_xLAOE1d_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_hjYZv3q_link"><span class="rep" id="__w2_hjYZv3q_sig">Hilbert Spaces, Differential Geo...</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_hjYZv3q_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_hjYZv3q_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_xLAOE1d_answer_voters"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_858"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Anthony-Foster">Anthony Foster</a> and <a class="user" href="/Martin-Jambon">Martin Jambon</a></span></div></div></div>The answer has something to do with group theory and the quaternions and the Clifford algebras.  <br /><br />Locally, our universe has a Lorentz transformation invariant geometry.  If you take Coulomb law + Lorentz invariance, you can prove maxwell&#039;s equations.<br /><br />There is a proof of this in:<br /><br />Principles of Electrodynamics <a href="http://amzn.to/fNNtZh" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://am<wbr />zn.to/fNNtZh</a><br /><br />Now, maxwell&#039;s equations have interesting symmetries that only make sense in 3 &#039;spatial&#039; dimensions and which cannot exist for any other dimension number.  The symmetry that contains our universe to three spatial dimensions is very closely related to quaternions and the cross-product operator.<br /><br />It turns out that our typical classical physics model is not invariant under all the unitary transformations on its coordinate system.  Maxwell&#039;s equations are invariant under rotations of the coordinate system, however any scalar defined in terms of a cross product is actually negated under a flip of the coordinates (parity).<br /><br />&lt;x | y &gt; = &lt; -x | -y &gt;<br /><br />Inner products are preserved under flipping.  However, for cross products,<br />a x b = -1* ( -a x -b)  , where a and b are vectors and x is the cross product operator.<br /><br />A scalar property defined as the inner product of a vector and the cross product of two vectors, is therefore not invariant under inversion of the coordinate system!<br />Some of the things physicists call scalars, are not actually scalars!  They are pseudo-scalars because they are not invariant under a unitary transformation of the coordinate system!<br /><br />This means the vector space is not actually a Hilbert Space and the vectors are not actually vectors, but &quot;pseudo-vectors&quot; (you have to rotate them through 4*pi radians on any axis to get back where they stated.  They are anti-symmetric under inversion of the coordinate system).  The inner product of a vector and a pseudo-vector is actually a pseudo-scalar, but physicists like to pretend that these are just scalars (but they are not).<br /><br />The unitary transformations are the isometries of the inner-product metric on the Hilbert Space and physicists often do not differentiate between the mathematics used to model/describe the system and the actual system state and therefore these confusions occur.<br /><br />The reason we have 3 dimensions is that the cross-product operator and the symmetries we observe, cannot exist in a higher or lower number of dimensions.<br /><br />The pseudo-scalars and pseudo-vectors operations you need only exist in certain dimension numbers, one of which is 3.  I think 4, 7, 11 and 21 also seem to work, but that there are only a small number possible dimensions due to mathematical symmetry constraints.<br /><br />I wish I could explain this better, but I am not an expert on the Clifford Algebras.<br />I think the answer is in this book:<br /><br />Space-Time Algebra <a href="http://amzn.to/dZjB4d" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.to/dZ<wbr />jB4d</a><br /><br />If you want conservation of energy, 1/r^2 laws or Lorentz invariance, you are mathematically constrained to a very small number of possible spatial dimensions.  If you throw away any of the implied symmetries, you end up with something that does not resemble our universe.<br /><br />Most of theoretical physics today is just thinly disguised group theory.<br /><br />For instance, &quot;conservation of energy&quot; is just invariance of a system&#039;s Hamiltonian func<wbr />tion under translation in time.  If something is true in physics, it is because a set of symmetries forces it to be true.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_xLAOE1d_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_859"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_tbuGNVr_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_860"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Why-does-physical-space-have-3-dimensions/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_WcFKtQp_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_918"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_861"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_u9ToLwF_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_919"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_5sX5ZH_725"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_kOOpGJL_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_760"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_786"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_960"></span><a class="question_link" href="/If-the-U-S-Capital-Gains-tax-rate-went-back-to-20-what-would-happen" id="__w2_VWEtCv2_link"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_961"></span>If the U.S. Capital Gains tax rate went back to 20%, what would happen?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_761"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_aplH5CY_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_aplH5CY_answer_voting"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_862"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_KSBsYcT_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_KSBsYcT_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_aplH5CY_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_YfgjZnf_link"><span class="rep" id="__w2_YfgjZnf_sig">I write machine learning based s...</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_YfgjZnf_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_YfgjZnf_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_aplH5CY_answer_voters"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_863"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a> and <a class="user" href="/Yaniv-Goldenrand">Yaniv Goldenrand</a></span></div></div></div>The capital gains tax is an implicit tax on wealth, because nominal increases in asset value are taxed and not the inflation adjusted purchasing power of the assets being held for investment.<br /><br />A 33% increase in the capital gains tax, to 20%, will severely erode capital accumulation in America (even more than the current 15% tax).<br /><br />The transition to a higher capital gains tax rate combined with a high inflation rate and currency devaluation could mark the end of the American empire.  An increase in the capital gains tax rate will accelerate capital flight.  It is believed by many economists that an increase in the capital gains tax rate will decrease tax revenues.<br /><br />Tax revenues are maximized when capital accumulation is maximized and economic studies suggest that tax revenue is maximized when the capital gains tax rates are zero.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_aplH5CY_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_864"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_SL3cvqb_view_comment_link">5 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_865"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/If-the-U-S-Capital-Gains-tax-rate-went-back-to-20-what-would-happen/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_Zm5gyjB_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_920"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_866"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_cyo6WVI_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_921"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_988"><a name="comment127989"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_njQsksu_comment"><p class="comment_text">The republican mantra that lower tax rates raise enough new taxes to replace that lost by a reduction in the rate has never been shown to be factual. During the Reagan tax cuts the economy recovered due to the action of the fed to stop inflation so there&#039;s no proof that the reduction in income taxes is what caused the increase in tax revenues. The GWBush tax cuts did not increase tax revenue so again there&#039;s no evidence.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Gary-Stein">Gary Stein</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_bAuwgJR_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_989"><a name="comment127993"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_wY5qIbH_comment"><p class="comment_text">I think that even if taxes were increased, the revenues would be spent inefficiently.<br /><br />They would not go towards education and infrastructure.  We allocate resources by political processes instead of a rational or quantitative process.<br /><br />The issue of capital accumulation is very important however.  Its up in the air what would happen.<br /><br />Looking at the tax law, instead of building a revenue generating company, I should be building companies to flip (turning income into long-term capital gains tax), unless the scale of the revenue of company is such that it could go public.<br /><br />Companies like Google do not pay taxes and they can afford to buy these little companies (and write off the costs as a deduction against their income).<br /><br />I think these tax rates distort or determine my behavior and my preferences and the ways in which I choose to generate wealth.  That distortion may not be good for the economy.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_czWNlTr_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_990"><a name="comment127996"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_YoI5SFI_comment"><p class="comment_text">All those I agree with, it&#039;s just the old saw that lowering tax rates increases revenue that is wishful thinking. But I do agree with all your other comments.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Gary-Stein">Gary Stein</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_g6dQSDR_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_991"><a name="comment127998"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_Kj6yi0H_comment"><p class="comment_text">For instance, the wealthy allocate assets into classes that have favorable tax treatment, rather than asset classes that produce the greatest rates of returns.<br /><br />When real estate investment trusts had favorable policies with regard to loss deductions, there was a massive movement of capital into that asset class, despite poor returns.  When the favorable tax treatme<wbr />nt ended, there was capital flight out of the asset class.<br /><br />Same with the savings and loans crisis...<br /><br />Today, stock ownership / capital gains from stock appreciation has favorable treatment compared to dividends.<br /><br />The result is that people prefer large companies like Google to invest revenue internally and achieve asset appreciation of Google stock, instead of issuing a dividend.  With a dividend, people would be able to reinvest the capital in the asset class with the highest growth, instead of the default decision of having the money reinvested in the company that generated it (at a comparably lower rate of return).<br /><br />This is great for large companies, because it lowers their cost of capital.  However, it is bad for investors because it lowers their rate of return.<br /><br />However, it is good for investors because it allows them to defer capital gains tax until the sale of the assets and for their capital to compound without constant taxation.<br /><br />I think the point is that if we tax investment at 50% per year, we are decreasing the rate of capital accumulation/formation by half.<br /><br />I think the US should do  fair-tax and eliminate or lower capital gains taxes to ~10% and dividends/capital gains should be treated identically. Short-term capital gains should be lowered to the level of long-term rates.<br /><br />The US should become a tax haven for foreign investment.<br /><br />A consumption based tax makes more sense than an income tax, especially from the perspective of capital accumulation.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_rjZNUmN_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_992"><a name="comment128002"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_gYVb8Np_comment"><p class="comment_text">Actually though due to the Feds artificially keeping interest rates low. There is a huge demand for returns thus members of the Dividend Arstocrats of the S&amp;P are being bid up due to exceptional demand and there is a great deal of pressure being put on the Ciscos, Apples, Amazons to pay a dividend even though as you say capital gains receives a better tax treatment then do dividends.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Gary-Stein">Gary Stein</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_JLnINPN_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_5sX5ZH_726"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_sy2bbON_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_762"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_787"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_962"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-did-Mark-Zuckerberg-retain-26-of-equity-after-so-many-rounds-of-financing" id="__w2_WLHqY1F_link"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_963"></span>How did Mark Zuckerberg retain 26% of equity after so many rounds of financing?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_763"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_e2VQaOS_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_e2VQaOS_answer_voting"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_867"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_fXUlSDv_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_fXUlSDv_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_e2VQaOS_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_rFJuyG3_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_rFJuyG3_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_rFJuyG3_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_e2VQaOS_answer_voters"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_868"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">34</strong> votes</span> by <span id="__w2_hTQujfL_view_all"><a class="user" href="/Philip-Mikal">Philip Mikal</a>, Anon User, <a class="user" href="/Mike-Mimbo">Mike Mimbo</a>, </span> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_hTQujfL_view_all_link">(more)</a><span class="hidden" id="__w2_hTQujfL_all_phrases"><a class="user" href="/Philip-Mikal">Philip Mikal</a>, Anon User, <a class="user" href="/Mike-Mimbo">Mike Mimbo</a>, <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a>, <a class="user" href="/Matt-Langley">Matt Langley</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ayo-Omojola">Ayo Omojola</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ori-Barbut">Ori Barbut</a>, <a class="user" href="/Janusz-Jamrozik">Janusz Jamrozik</a>, <a class="user" href="/Matthew-Hill">Matthew Hill</a>, <a class="user" href="/Patrick-A-Foley">Patrick A Foley</a>, <a class="user" href="/Gene-Folgo">Gene Folgo</a>, <a class="user" href="/Arjun-Sethi">Arjun Sethi</a>, <a class="user" href="/Yishan-Wong">Yishan Wong</a>, <a class="user" href="/Sasha-Katsnelson">Sasha Katsnelson</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ashot-Petrosian">Ashot Petrosian</a>, <a class="user" href="/Saul-Lustgarten">Saul Lustgarten</a>, <a class="user" href="/Neeraj-Agrawal">Neeraj Agrawal</a>, <a class="user" href="/Andrew-Boz-Bosworth">Andrew &#039;Boz&#039; Bosworth</a>, <a class="user" href="/Phil-Wolff">Phil Wolff</a>, <a class="user" href="/Chetan-Conikee">Chetan Conikee</a>, <a class="user" href="/Tyler-Willis">Tyler Willis</a>, <a class="user" href="/Mircea-Goia">Mircea Goia</a>, <a class="user" href="/Asics-Yao">Asics Yao</a>, <a class="user" href="/Justin-Cambria">Justin Cambria</a>, <a class="user" href="/Tzury-Bar-Yochay">Tzury Bar Yochay</a>, <a class="user" href="/Murtaza-Ali-Akbar">Murtaza Ali Akbar</a>, <a class="user" href="/Borislav-Agapiev">Borislav Agapiev</a>, <a class="user" href="/Daniel-Waldron">Daniel Waldron</a>, <a class="user" href="/Bharanidharan-Viswanathan-1">Bharanidharan Viswanathan</a>, <a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a>, <a class="user" href="/Amit-Chaudhary">Amit Chaudhary</a>, Anon User, <a class="user" href="/Aniq-Rahman">Aniq Rahman</a> and <a class="user" href="/John-Manoogian">John Manoogian</a></span></span></div></div></div>There are several factors<br /><br /><ul><li>Mark Zuckerberg retained board control and therefore was able to block dilutive and unnecessary &quot;inside&quot; rounds.</li><li>Facebook was break-even on gifts and display advertising by the time of its VC rounds.  Your valuation is much higher if you have revenues.</li><li>Facebook&#039;s early investors were very prominent and they bid up Facebook&#039;s valuation.  The social connection of the early employees and high profile angels (Anderson, Thiel) ensured that Facebook had many high profile venture firms interested in the company.  This was essential to establishing a competitive valuation process.</li><li>Facebook had multiple offers and was able to start a valuation bidding war between investors.  If you have multiple interested investors, you will have a better valuation.  It is impossible to have a competitive valuation process with only a single interested investor.</li><li>Sean Parker.</li></ul><div class="action_bar" id="__w2_e2VQaOS_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_869"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_i7FU6JG_view_comment_link">16 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_870"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-did-Mark-Zuckerberg-retain-26-of-equity-after-so-many-rounds-of-financing/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_sXWNFLz_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_922"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_871"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_n5SQVMZ_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_923"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_993"><a name="comment127255"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_geiHhpa_comment"><p class="comment_text">I still don not understand how this can happen. If he himself did not get diluted, someone got to be diluted. and the question is &quot;who are they? early employees or early investors&quot;</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Sean-Yang">Sean Yang</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_PeFmLWz_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_994"><a name="comment127356"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_h0M4GGz_comment"><p class="comment_text">He did get diluted (he owns 26%, not 100%)</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_Fq0OtwR_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_995"><a name="comment127495"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_Ut4wMXt_comment"><p class="comment_text">Maybe Eduardo Saverin&#039;s shares got dilluted a lot.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Mircea-Goia">Mircea Goia</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_EeOZUBD_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_996"><div class="comment comment_dotdotdot p0_5"><a class="supp" href="#" onclick="$(&#039;.hidden_comments_161241&#039;).toggleClass(&#039;hidden&#039;);
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I&#039;m guessing it was bought for what its team could build for Google.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_l5epaXV_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_379"><a name="comment125333"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_hMiyWrk_comment"><p class="comment_text">Also, Gary, arguably Apple made a bad decision not outbidding Google on AdMob.<br /><br />Some markets are too important to underbid on the top company.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_QZncosR_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_350"><a name="comment125347"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_EMuWQwH_comment"><p class="comment_text">Could be though I don&#039;t think we will know the results of that for awhile. I think Job&#039;s wants to kern IOS a closed garden and lock out other ad servers so as long as he has the numbers of users to be competive the ad network isn&#039;t as important if it&#039;s a monopoly.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Gary-Stein">Gary Stein</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_vgvoD26_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_351"><a name="comment125357"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_Z5lH1cB_comment"><p class="comment_text">Great point -- he&#039;s not trying to maximize profit here, he&#039;s trying to strategically lock developers in and lock competitors out.<br /><br />For those goals I say: well done!</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_sKxjEDC_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_82"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_E4kbeen_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_117"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_143"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_317"></span><a class="question_link" href="/At-what-portfolio-size-does-it-make-sense-to-switch-from-holding-index-funds-ETFs-to-directly-holding-the-indexed-instruments" id="__w2_ItR4UAP_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_318"></span>At what portfolio size does it make sense to switch from holding index funds / ETFs to directly holding the indexed instruments?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_118"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_J5dgncy_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_J5dgncy_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_219"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_Z77u9jQ_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_Z77u9jQ_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_J5dgncy_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_Tk6M0Cu_link"><span class="rep" id="__w2_Tk6M0Cu_sig">I write machine learning based s...</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_Tk6M0Cu_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_Tk6M0Cu_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_J5dgncy_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_220"></div></div></div>Do you want an index fund or the market portfolio?<br /><br />If you want a market fund and you have a factor model or the CAPM is wrong then your market portfolio will be different than the index fund.<br /><br />In general, it does not matter how much money you have.  You can achieve extremely low transaction costs from places like IB.  Tracking error does not affect your rate of return much.<br /><br />In fact, your rate of return may be higher if you are investing in the market portfolio (as determined by mean-variance analysis and your factor model).  You will notice that in theory (CAPM) the market-fund and index fund are the same portfolio; however in practice they diverge significantly.<br /><br />I would definitely just calculate the market fund and track that.  There are many advantages to doing it yourself, especially if you want to employ tax-loss harvesting strategies.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_J5dgncy_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_221"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_VAWKTwN_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_222"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/At-what-portfolio-size-does-it-make-sense-to-switch-from-holding-index-funds-ETFs-to-directly-holding-the-indexed-instruments/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_JRElp01_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_277"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_223"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_yQdAwsN_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_278"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_83"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_FRnKaxA_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_119"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_144"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_319"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Should-capitalism-influence-the-education-system" id="__w2_BaiWXFo_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_320"></span>Should capitalism influence the education system?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_120"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_mzXc49B_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_mzXc49B_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_224"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_h1xhSld_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_h1xhSld_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_mzXc49B_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_FNzvv09_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_FNzvv09_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_FNzvv09_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_mzXc49B_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_225"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Gary-Teal">Gary Teal</a> and <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a></span></div></div></div>Schools would be higher quality if parents had the choice to move their children to better schools.<br /><br />We tell parents &quot;Your children have to goto this school&quot; and the parent cannot credibly threaten to move their child to a better school (depriving the public school of funds).<br /><br />We have a system where parents and students have no choices.  Schools do not respond to the desires of parents and students, except in the most affluent areas.  The parents of the inner city poor rarely sit on school boards or participate in local government.<br /><br />Parents are not given meaningful data about the performance of individual teachers and students cannot choose their teachers and in many areas (especially poorer schools) cannot choose what courses they take.<br /><br />The existing education system in America is a form of central planning; education is not controlled by the community, the parents or the students, but by the bureaucrat that knows what is best for you and your children.<br /><br />Unions and government regulations protect under-performing school against market discipline.  It is not even necessary to privatize the schools, merely to give individuals choice.<br /><br />The idea of paying teachers based on their performance rather than their seniority is unacceptable to the teachers unions.  The idea of publishing teacher performance data is also something that cannot be tolerated under socialism, because if parents had information they might start trying to make choices about their children&#039;s educations and that is unacceptable.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_mzXc49B_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_226"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_nJ2neUH_view_comment_link">1 Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_227"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Should-capitalism-influence-the-education-system/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_jSLKonY_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_279"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_228"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_WnQVWih_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_280"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_352"><a name="comment124988"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_yD9pKlq_comment"><p class="comment_text">Not many private schools, to my knowledge, feature merit pay. It&#039;s a factor at the university level.<br /><br />Liberalization of education will take a long time absent a sudden collapse.<br /><br />In terms of actionable, immediate things that can be done, more private companies can offer alternative education packages to make opting out of the system more feasible for more families.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_R7KuZlm_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_84"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_V3xdKBI_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_121"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_145"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_321"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-common-is-it-for-founders-to-vest-a-portion-of-their-equity-up-front" id="__w2_ZOQRrCq_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_322"></span>How common is it for founders to vest a portion of their equity up-front?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_122"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_VEjUawe_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_VEjUawe_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_229"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_aVzDAiJ_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_aVzDAiJ_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_VEjUawe_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_ef6w7Hn_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_ef6w7Hn_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_ef6w7Hn_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_VEjUawe_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_230"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">1</strong> vote</span> by <a class="user" href="/Matt-Scullin">Matt Scullin</a></span></div></div></div>Well.<br /><br />It is not unheard of for founders to work 4 years on a company, get VC with a vesting provision and then be replaced as CEO and then terminated within a few months (losing all their equity).<br /><br />More common when a founder has a controlling stake in the company.<br /><br />Your vesting schedule should reflect the contribution to your company so far and future commitment to the company.  You should definitely have 100% accelerated vesting if terminated without clause.<br /><br />You should also ensure that board seats are not terminated with employment and are elected by the common-shareholder.<br /><br />Those provisions matter much more than whether vesting is up-front.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_VEjUawe_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_231"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_jGCHY8g_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; 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Ellis</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a> and <a class="user" href="/Eisar-Lipkovitz">Eisar Lipkovitz</a></span></div></div></div>Facebook is unlikely to IPO above a 40x P/E ratio.<br /><br />David is correct in suggesting that Facebook is unlikely to trade publicly at a 165 P/E ratio.  A 40x P/E would be more reasonable.<br /><br />Most of Facebook&#039;s user growth is currently outside of the US markets.  This traffic is not as valuable as the US demographic.  Facebook may even be declining in the core 25-40 US demographic.<br /><br />Most of Facebook&#039;s revenues will come from Facebook credits and display advertising.  Facebook has room to grow in display advertising (both on Facebook and off the platform).  Facebook&#039;s valuation reflects Facebook&#039;s positioning on the internet with respect to display advertising.<br /><br />Facebook is collecting massive amounts of user preference data through their Like button widget, which has become ubiquitous.  It is likely that Facebook will be able to command higher eCPM rates (by offering targeting of advertisements by demographics and individual users; the same way that Google offers targeted advertisements based on search key-words through Ad Words).<br /><br />Display advertising margins are 30% and could represent a few billion a year in revenue for Facebook.<br /><br />Facebook&#039;s P/E ratio is currently around 165, but it is incorrect to state that valuations represent discounted future profits.  Most technology companies do not pay dividends and investors prefer stock appreciation to dividends.  Studies show that the intangible assets of companies (such as organizational capital) account for much of the market capitalization of a company, beyond the value of the future discounted revenues of the company.<br /><br />So for instance, a dollar invested internally in a company can increase its market cap more than if that dollar was realized as profits instead.<br /><br />See: <b>Wired for Innovation: How Information Technology is Reshaping the Economy</b> <a href="http://amzn.to/aS5kzf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://amzn.to/aS<wbr />5kzf</a><br /><br />Facebook&#039;s valuation reflects the positioning of its technology platform and strategic options in entering adjacent markets, such as display advertising.<br />Depending on the competence of Facebook&#039;s management, 25 a billion dollar valuation could be conservative at a 40 P/E ratio; although there is uncertainty as to whether those revenues will be realized.<br /><br />What is more interesting, is the question of why Facebook would accept additional investment at all.  These recent Facebook rounds seem unnecessary from a financial perspective.  To increase Facebook&#039;s valuation in the secondary market, while setting expectations for an IPO?  To reward insiders with a 10% yearly profit for holding shares until IPO?<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_eHK9QDd_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_236"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_ggLeGsp_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_237"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/What-do-Facebook-employees-think-about-the-37signals-post-on-the-valuation-of-Facebook/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_ikvBFlx_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_283"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_238"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_hNmdT2M_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_284"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_86"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_SvBQbJt_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_125"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_147"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_325"></span><a class="question_link" href="/What-do-employers-mean-when-they-ask-for-5-7-years-experience-working-in-social-media" id="__w2_uohIVgn_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_326"><span class="best_source_icon" id="__w2_RSoBArI_icon"></span></span>What do employers mean when they ask for 5-7 years experience working in social media?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_126"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_a11OCDU_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_a11OCDU_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_239"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_MugZCqt_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_MugZCqt_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_a11OCDU_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_zrMTMMw_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_zrMTMMw_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_zrMTMMw_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_a11OCDU_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_240"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">18</strong> votes</span> by <span id="__w2_O1maUbY_view_all"><a class="user" href="/Yishan-Wong">Yishan Wong</a>, <a class="user" href="/Leif-Walsh">Leif Walsh</a>, <a class="user" href="/Arun-Gupta-1">Arun Gupta</a>, </span> <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_O1maUbY_view_all_link">(more)</a><span class="hidden" id="__w2_O1maUbY_all_phrases"><a class="user" href="/Yishan-Wong">Yishan Wong</a>, <a class="user" href="/Leif-Walsh">Leif Walsh</a>, <a class="user" href="/Arun-Gupta-1">Arun Gupta</a>, <a class="user" href="/Evan-Weiss">Evan Weiss</a>, <a class="user" href="/Ming-Yeow-Ng">Ming Yeow Ng</a>, <a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a>, <a class="user" href="/Paul-Wais">Paul Wais</a>, <a class="user" href="/John-Fernandez">John Fernandez</a>, <a class="user" href="/Eunji-Choi">Eunji Choi</a>, <a class="user" href="/Lucas-Meadows">Lucas Meadows</a>, <a class="user" href="/Adam-Bossy">Adam Bossy</a>, <a class="user" href="/Andrew-Hamada">Andrew Hamada</a>, <a class="user" href="/Jono-Lee">Jono Lee</a>, <a class="user" href="/Mike-Grouchy">Mike Grouchy</a>, <a class="user" href="/Rex-Dixon">Rex Dixon</a>, <a class="user" href="/Bill-McDonald">Bill McDonald</a> and <a class="user" href="/Marc-Bodnick">Marc Bodnick</a></span></span></div></div></div>It means that job requirements are bullshit.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_a11OCDU_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_241"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_iSSFDjc_view_comment_link">3 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_242"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/What-do-employers-mean-when-they-ask-for-5-7-years-experience-working-in-social-media/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_AK5pS8A_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_285"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_243"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_OJGXZwa_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_286"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_353"><a name="comment124997"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_o1SqjaP_comment"><p class="comment_text">Nice.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Aen-Tan">Aen Tan</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_CcFZKEr_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_354"><a name="comment125003"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_ijSHofa_comment"><p class="comment_text">I would look them in the eye and say &quot;I have been marketing on Twitter for fifteen years.&quot;</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_lhRTdxp_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_355"><a name="comment129758"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_Bh1oB03_comment"><p class="comment_text">Brandon - can you copy your comment into your answer so it is more visible. It&#039;s funny.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Bill-McDonald">Bill McDonald</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_vSO2pL5_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_M9jVwE_87"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_eLdh9sJ_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_127"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_M9jVwE_148"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_327"></span><a class="question_link" href="/What-makes-the-gameplay-technology-and-monetization-engines-of-each-of-the-following-games-hard-to-make-The-games-Travian-Metin-2-Dark-Orbit-Runescape-Runes-of-Magic-and-Maple-Story." id="__w2_a3I4OFV_link"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_328"></span>What makes the gameplay, technology and monetization engines of each of the following games hard to make?  The games: Travian, Metin 2, Dark Orbit, Runescape, Runes of Magic and Maple Story.</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_128"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_xcRjB9G_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_xcRjB9G_answer_voting"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_244"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_F7tiNXZ_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_F7tiNXZ_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_xcRjB9G_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_BXetcz5_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_BXetcz5_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_BXetcz5_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_xcRjB9G_answer_voters"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_245"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">2</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Marius-Comper">Marius Comper</a> and <a class="user" href="/Seun-Osewa">Seun Osewa</a></span></div></div></div>Nothing.<br /><br />There are hundreds of micro-MMOs, many of which were built by single people.<br /><br />The primary limitations are knowledge.<br /><br />This is a very broad topic and I cannot cover it exhaustively, but will gloss over some of the things which will help you become more successful.<br /><br /><b>Marketing&gt; </b><br /><br />Do you know how to drive user growth?  Viral marketing, affiliate marketing, word of mouth, and so on.  Runescape succeeded beca<wbr />use it had an innovative affiliate rela<wbr />tionship with one of the larger gaming studios.  World of Warcraft used advertisements on the Battlenet platform to drive WoW growth (free customer acquisition).<br /><br />There were many similar RPGs to Runescape, but its affiliate marketing program set it apart.<br /><br /><b>Technical&gt;</b><br /><br />Do you know how to get around relational database performance limitations?  Can you solve the scalability issues?  How do you distribute patches to the client?  Do you know how to prevent item duplication?  Do you have one continuous world or do you need to shard the servers?  Do you know how to use compression to lower bandwidth costs?<br /><br />Many successful MMOs died because they grew to the point that they were no longer playable, because they were hitting relational database performance limitations and were too poorly designed to easily modify.  If you have experience building scalability syst<wbr />ems, you can build in application level database partitioning from day one.<br /><br />In a recent engine we built, we abandoned a relational database all together and stored everything in ram (with the database only being used for serialization).  That improved performance from 2000 reads per second to over 85,000 reads per second.  That is a 40x savings in hardware costs.<br /><br />We similarly achieved a 50x savings in bandwidth costs by adapting advanced compression methodologies (an arithmetic coding implementation tailored to the message we were sending).<br /><br />Today any developer can throw up an MMO in flash and get 800k users on the Facebook platform.  However, to scale you need to have an intimate understanding of hardware performance, software design for distributed high performance systems, compression algorithms and computer networking.<br /><br />Even extremely successful companies such as the makers of Everyquest lacked some of these organizational capacities.  Everquest began to save 3 million dollars a month when they realized they could compress client/server communications!<br /><br /><b>Monetization&gt;</b><br /><br />Do you know how to optimize your monetization strateg<wbr />ies?  Are you going to monetize on subscriptions, in-game sales or content packs?  Should your game be freemium or subscription?<br /><br />Very large companies with extremely competent and experienced industry executives often make horrible errors of judgement when making these choices.  One MMO for instance, began as a subscription based service and was unprofitable, but later switched to free to play and began to grow quickly and eventually became a cash-cow.<br /><br />Monetization requires experience with A/B testing.  Most companies do not have experience with analytics and this depresses their revenue growth.<br /><br />Companies like Zynga, who have mastered A/B testing methodologies are raping everyone else in the industry.  Consider how simple Farmville is compared to your average MMO RPG which requires 50 developers and 300 artists working 4 years to produce.  Consider that Farmville is also more profitable than most MMO RPGs.<br /><br />New platforms such as Facebook have completely changed the revenue model of the flash gaming industry.  The economics of MMOs are also being changed by new revenue models inspired by the success of games on the Facebook platform.<br /><br />The economics of game production are also changing rapidly.  Today a 2 person development team can push out an MMO RPG on Facebook in 3 months of development time and get 60,000 users and $30,000/month in revenue.  <br /><br />Compare this to the 100 million dollar, 4 year, 250 employee development projects typical of traditional MMOs.  Today&#039;s MMOs can break even at a much larger scale.  You wont be buying a Gulfstream with your social gaming revenue, but a 300k MAU game is Ferrari money.<br /><br />The proliferation of MMOs and their decreasing cost is causing increasing market segmentation.<br /><br />The scale at which you can break even is much smaller and the number of MMOs is increasing every year.  The challenge is no longer building the MMO, but acquiring users, retaining users and monetizing users.<br /><br />Today, thousands of innovative games and game-play mechanisms are produced each year, by innovative independent de<wbr />velopers.  However, most of these games are commercial failures, not because they are not innovative or because they are not fun; but rather because their creators do not have skill in marketing and customer acquisition stra<wbr />tegies.<br /><br />For instance, games like Farmville (which are not very &#039;fun&#039;) can be extremely successful commercially with the right marketing strategies, and extensive A/B testing your monetization strategy, viral marketing, user retention and conversion funnels.<br /><br />Also, cross promotion between your games is becoming a much more important marketing strategy.  Companies like Zynga leverage their existing user-base to lower their customer acquisition cost for their new games.<br /><br />Going into the future, I think we will see many larger studios which are organized as several independent devel<wbr />opment teams within a larger company, where the marketing, A/B testing and technical back-end architecture is shared between the development groups.<br /><br />We are also seeing groups of independent studios forming larger aggregate cross promoting groups.  This may put many of the medium sized studios on equal footing with companies like Zynga who are able to leverage their large installed base to lower their customer acquisition cost<wbr />s.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_xcRjB9G_answer_actions"><span id="ld_M9jVwE_246"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_nDzCpqq_view_comment_link">8 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_M9jVwE_247"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/What-makes-the-gameplay-technology-and-monetization-engines-of-each-of-the-following-games-hard-to-make-The-games-Travian-Metin-2-Dark-Orbit-Runescape-Runes-of-Magic-and-Maple-Story./answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_xhYxmo9_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_M9jVwE_287"></span></span></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_248"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_ZKNyLh2_answer_comments"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_288"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_356"><a name="comment127221"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_hf93hbW_comment"><p class="comment_text">I am curious where you got the growth information for Runescape and World of Warcraft?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Seth-Sivak">Seth Sivak</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_Nl1XeVs_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_357"><a name="comment127230"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_SoNvvrC_comment"><p class="comment_text">Hearsay.<br /><br />The fundamental problem today is driving users into your conversion funnel.  We can build the games, but getting users is another problem.<br /><br />Ruinscape grew rapidly because of its affiliate relationship with a large flash games portal.  That is public knowledge, its in the business press somewhere.<br /><br />What drove WoW subscription growth is a question that only Blizzard executives can answer.  However its clear that Blizzard&#039;s platform control over Bnet allowed Blizzard to advertise WoW to Blizzard&#039;s installed base of Starcraft, Warcraft III and Diablo 2 players.<br /><br />This is similar to Zynga&#039;s strategy of cross promoting its games and funneling Farmville users onto its other media properties.<br /><br />Cross promotion and platform control are good strategies for driving user growth, lowering user acquisition costs and building momentum for your games.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_vG3i5qS_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_358"><a name="comment127235"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_de3CuMF_comment"><p class="comment_text">Also, Wow has a 50 cents daily ARPU.  $15/month per subscriber.<br /><br />Therefore WoW could afford to purchase click traffic through banner ads at +10 cents per click.  When you have a high ARPU and your cost per customer acquisition thro<wbr />ugh advertising is lower than your ARPU, then you can afford to acquire a large user base through advertising.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_LDfjQuc_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_359"><div class="comment comment_dotdotdot p0_5"><a class="supp" href="#" 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Saverin won in court; the court verified 7% ownership.&quot;<br /><br />This happens, but its rare that it goes to court and it is even rarer that the court rules against the company.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_GT2glU4_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1024"><a name="comment127528"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_FJu3wFM_comment"><p class="comment_text">&quot;On October 31, 2004, Eduardo signed a shareholder agreement that alloted him 3 million shares of common stock in the new company. In the agreement, he handed over all relevant intellectual property and turned over his voting rights to Mark Zuckerberg. Mark became Facebook&#039;s sole director.<br />On January 7, 2005, Mark caused Facebook to issue 9 million shares of common stock in the new company. He took 3.3. million shares for himself and gave 2 million to Sean Parker and 2 million to Dustin Moskovitz. This share issuance instantly diluted Eduardo&#039;s stake in the company from ~24% to below 10%.&quot;<br />I am surprised that the court ruled in favor of Eduardo.  Its extremely rare.  Directors are given a very wide discretion.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_RUug1ob_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1025"><a name="comment127569"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_ct2J8xd_comment"><p class="comment_text">Well, he should praise the God of startups that he got lucky to get something back :). He is worth now almost a billion...what more can he ask?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Mircea-Goia">Mircea Goia</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_L0tJGtf_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1026"><a name="comment127691"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_wA2ZWar_comment"><p class="comment_text">Wait so after Sean Parker was diluted, how many shares did Mark hold? And if I understand correctly you&#039;re saying Sean Parker&#039;s previous experience with being screwed over and dealing with equity issues helped Mark right?</p><p class="action_bar">Anon User<span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_vrtJ61v_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1027"><a name="comment127760"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_ui38mqo_comment"><p class="comment_text">I think what we need here is someone to give us a detailed rundown on all the dirty tricks a VC can potentially play on eager naive entrepreneurs.  Im not saying all VCs are bad but Im sure there are the bad apples there, and thats who we need to watch out for!  So does someone have a checklist of the most common things to o&#039;watch out for&#039; ?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Rajeev-Sharma">Rajeev Sharma</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_fPu3wor_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1028"><a name="comment127772"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_KOm1FrT_comment"><p class="comment_text">Yes, Rajeev, it is called &quot;your lawyer.&quot;</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_YWL4NAt_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1029"><a name="comment127790"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_wHYQt6t_comment"><p class="comment_text">:-) you;re right. sorry was that a dumb question!</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Rajeev-Sharma">Rajeev Sharma</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_AOdHWb7_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1030"><a name="comment127861"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_aGWtNVq_comment"><p class="comment_text">Sorry....that was a little glib.  It is worth understanding all of the ins and outs of financing and what you should ask for when.  However it always comes down to a few moments when you have a decision to either sign something or not sign it, and at that point you have to have a lawyer you trust completely.  (Eduardo Saverin did not have a lawyer when he signed the fateful docs!)</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Michael-Wolfe">Michael Wolfe</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_y8PNDgb_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1031"><a name="comment127872"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_DKeFteS_comment"><p class="comment_text">&quot;And if I understand correctly you&#039;re saying Sean Parker&#039;s previous experience with being screwed over and dealing with equity issues helped Mark right?&quot;<br /><br />Oh ya.  Sean Parker is a veteran with being screwed over by VCs.  He was kicked out of 3 companies in a row, by the investors.<br /><br />Sean Parker is obviously extremely brilliant, but he is a flawed character and has a personality and style that does not jibe with investors.<br /><br />Sean Parker is a modern day Jim Clark and entrepreneurial anti-<wbr />hero.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_cbqCITM_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1032"><a name="comment128378"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_rbFBOWy_comment"><p class="comment_text">Very good overall response.<br />I would suggest impact of putting acquirers against investors as an additional reason for better valuation. And using partnerships as investments at high valuation.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Amit-Chaudhary">Amit Chaudhary</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_iUHYrge_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_997"><a name="comment128446"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_KVSeDBO_comment"><p class="comment_text">&quot;Mark Zuckerberg retained board control and therefore was able to block dilutive and unnecessary &quot;inside&quot; rounds.&quot; Can you describe what an inside round is, and how it would be used?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Shervin-Talieh">Shervin Talieh</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_UZhydun_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_998"><a name="comment132847"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_I7wiCl7_comment"><p class="comment_text">I think it is worth noting the quasi biding war that ensued, first with the Yahoo! $1B acquisition offer, then Google&#039;s interest, then Microsoft&#039;s interest (primarily in order to block Google).  As I understand it, the quantum leap from a $550m valuation to the $15B valuation with Microsoft&#039;s $240m investment was a result of them &quot;buying&quot; a right of first refusal to acquire the company outright if Facebook received an offer from Google.  Once you reach those heights, the dilution is minimal even though the successive investments were in the 9 digit figures.  Once you have all that cash and momentum, how can you be stopped?</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Michael-Tupper">Michael Tupper</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_oPqIW73_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_5sX5ZH_727"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_bYns8Zy_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_764"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_788"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_964"></span><a class="question_link" href="/When-seeking-someone-in-a-coffee-shop-whom-youve-never-seen-before-what-are-some-useful-tips" id="__w2_fkPn7f6_link"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_965"></span>When seeking someone in a coffee shop whom you&#039;ve never seen before, what are some useful tips?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_765"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_YFXOVYa_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_YFXOVYa_answer_voting"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_872"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_O7NvD7g_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_O7NvD7g_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_YFXOVYa_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_yWuUu88_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_yWuUu88_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_yWuUu88_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_YFXOVYa_answer_voters"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_873"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">4</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Cameron-A.-Ellis">Cameron A. Ellis</a>, <a class="user" href="/Jonathan-Brill">Jonathan Brill</a>, <a class="user" href="/J.C.-Hewitt">J.C. Hewitt</a> and <a class="user" href="/John-Marsland">John Marsland</a></span></div></div></div>I would use an SMS gateway to send 256 text messages to their cell phone and then look for the person whose phone is going berserk.<br /><br />See: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SMS_gateways" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://en.wikipedia.org/w<wbr />iki/Lis...</a><div class="action_bar" id="__w2_YFXOVYa_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_874"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_lWnf3PI_view_comment_link">2 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_875"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/When-seeking-someone-in-a-coffee-shop-whom-youve-never-seen-before-what-are-some-useful-tips/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_HeE7E5B_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_924"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_876"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_rxJH3kT_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_925"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_999"><a name="comment127207"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_OHDbWvb_comment"><p class="comment_text">I always get their mobile number before the meeting, and i call them at the exact time we were supposed to meet. Either i see them answer their phone or they tell me where they&#039;re at and then I just look for the next rushed person who runs through the door scanning faces to find me.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Jonathan-Brill">Jonathan Brill</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_DBWJFwo_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1000"><a name="comment127210"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_O81ZU5i_comment"><p class="comment_text">That works too.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_SRjxakV_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_5sX5ZH_728"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_YLf7lGp_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_766"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_789"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_966"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Would-it-help-employment-if-we-went-back-to-less-efficient-ways-of-doing-things" id="__w2_c8tfgwv_link"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_967"></span>Would it help employment if we went back to less efficient ways of doing things?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_767"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_Jxs1ToV_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_Jxs1ToV_answer_voting"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_877"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_dp6psbh_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_dp6psbh_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_Jxs1ToV_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_h6L7klM_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_h6L7klM_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_h6L7klM_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_Jxs1ToV_answer_voters"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_878"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">1</strong> vote</span> by <a class="user" href="/Eric-Shull">Eric Shull</a></span></div></div></div>Employment would increase, but prices would go back up.<br /><br />Low wages result in lower prices for consumer goods.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_Jxs1ToV_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_879"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_KuhHH5r_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_880"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Would-it-help-employment-if-we-went-back-to-less-efficient-ways-of-doing-things/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_a1owLOI_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_926"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_881"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_xNmoEqB_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_927"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_5sX5ZH_729"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_AF7mxPH_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_768"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_790"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_968"></span><a class="question_link" href="/How-soon-before-the-secondary-equity-markets-come-under-regulatory-scrutiny" id="__w2_eUHJxMw_link"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_969"></span>How soon before the secondary equity markets come under regulatory scrutiny?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_769"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_lUJKA1k_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_lUJKA1k_answer_voting"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_882"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_x49xc1I_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_x49xc1I_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_lUJKA1k_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_zJ1tuQ3_link"><span class="rep" id="__w2_zJ1tuQ3_sig">I write machine learning based s...</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_zJ1tuQ3_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_zJ1tuQ3_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_lUJKA1k_answer_voters"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_883"></div></div></div>Not long.  Investment banks make a premium in transaction costs because of market illiquidity in privately held securities.  I believe the existing investment banks will lobby to undermine secondary market liquidity and push for heavy and burdensome regulation.<br /><br />This what Goldman Sachs did to address the threat of electronic exchanges for OTC which side stepped the investment banks (Goldman now generates most of its revenue from the transaction costs on these instruments as OTC trading on exchanges its prohibitively regulated).<br /><br />Direct public offerings and other means of increasing liquidity and decreasing financial tran<wbr />saction costs for currently illiquid securities were regulated with prohibitive and very restrictive financial information disclosure requirements that reduced their attractiveness.<br /><br />Obviously we cannot have companies communicating with investors directly over the internet to perform their public offerings as that would cut out the investment banks.<br /><br />For some idea of what kind of regulations will be used to kill liquidity on the secondary markets,<br /><br />See: <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=831906" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="external_link">http://papers.ssrn.c<wbr />om/sol3/pape...</a><div class="action_bar" id="__w2_lUJKA1k_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_884"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_RfqCux7_view_comment_link">Add Comment</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_885"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/How-soon-before-the-secondary-equity-markets-come-under-regulatory-scrutiny/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_RIl9fEQ_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_928"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_886"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_QcEyPI9_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_929"></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="pagedlist_item" id="ld_5sX5ZH_730"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1" id="__w2_jHlxuJu_item"><div class="e_col w4_5"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_770"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_791"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_970"></span><a class="question_link" href="/Does-the-Silicon-Valley-mindset-give-companies-a-pass-for-not-having-a-business-model-because-that-would-hinder-innovation" id="__w2_v3gTG7u_link"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_971"><span class="best_source_icon" id="__w2_PaNTkKW_icon"></span></span>Does the Silicon Valley mindset give companies a pass for not having a business model because that would hinder innovation?</a></span></h2></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_771"><div class="feed_item_answer answer_text" id="__w2_c4sU83v_answer"><div class="rating_buttons"><div id="__w2_c4sU83v_answer_voting"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_887"><div class="rating_buttons "><div class="rating_options"><a class="lil_button rate_up" href="#" id="__w2_ebS6kxd_answer_vote_up_link">&nbsp;</a><a class="lil_button rate_down" href="#" id="__w2_ebS6kxd_answer_vote_down_link">&nbsp;</a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="feed_item_answer_content answer_content"><div class="answer_user"><span class="feed_item_answer_user" id="__w2_c4sU83v_answer_user_sig"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="rep">, </span><span id="__w2_zGwoMv0_link"><span class="rep">Founder of Symbolic Analytics</span></span><div class="hover_menu hidden" style="display: none" id="__w2_zGwoMv0_menu"><div class="hover_menu_nub"></div><div class="menu_contents growl_notification" id="__w2_zGwoMv0_menu_contents"> </div></div></span><div id="__w2_c4sU83v_answer_voters"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_888"><span class="answer_voters"><span class="answer_voter_callout"><strong class="voter_count">3</strong> votes</span> by <a class="user" href="/Matt-Scullin">Matt Scullin</a>, <a class="user" href="/Alexander-Dominic-Horré">Alexander Dominic Horré</a> and <a class="user" href="/Ori-Barbut">Ori Barbut</a></span></div></div></div>There are two types of companies.  There are web 2.0 companies that have lots of eye-balls (content) and there are companies with business models.<br /><br />For instance, tech crunch sold for 40 million.<br /><br />If you have a startup with 6000 subscribers at $30/month and you sell your company for 20x earnings.  That is 43 million dollars.<br /><br />If you are ad supported and your eCPM rate is $0.05 cents (like Facebook/4-Chan/Dating sites), then you need 3.6 billion page views per month to hit 40 million valuation at 20x earnings.<br /><br />Alternatively, you can find 60 companies that will pay you $3000 a month for a service (SaS) and have a 40 million valuation at 20x earnings.<br /><br />The idea behind many of these Web 2.0 sites like Slide and Path is not to make money.  The idea is that Google and Microsoft have made offers for twitter that value the company at over $60 per active user.<br /><br />The assets of the company are the employees, the platform and user-base; not the revenue stream of the company.<br /><br />It would probably be more effective for Google to pay people $60 per active Buzz user they sign up, than to buy Twitter at $60/user, but they will try to buy Twitter anyways.  Yahoo made an offer to Facebook of $260 per user.  Will Facebook even be able to realize revenues of $260 per user over the lifetime of the user?<br /><br />Companies will pay a premium to acquire platform control and to buy companies like Path to acquire their user-bases.  It is not very clear why they will pay a premium for these users if they have no effective way of monetizing the user-base.<br /><br />Technology companies in general do not pay dividends and often have a cash hoard they need to get rid of.  Google has so much money that it is opening up a corporate bond trading desk to invest it.  Maybe a 300 million dollar acquisition of a company like Slide at $50 a user increases the market cap of companies like Google, more than the loss of cash decreases the market cap of these companies.<br /><br />Historically, most mergers and acquisitions are futile and are a waste of money.  Sometimes they are strategic, but more often they are represent a net loss of value for the acquiring company, but companies keep doing these large value destroying acquisitions f<wbr />or unknown reasons.<br /><br />People will continue to start companies with no business model and no expectations for revenue, as long as these companies continue to be bought.<br /><br />Smaller, early stage acquisitions howeve<wbr />r can create value and are a valuable source of new products and technological innovations.  This is one reasons angel portfolios have been doing so well in recent years.  These companies usually exit below 30 million and the returns are too small to interest traditional VC funds, but they have been out-performing VC by a wide margin.<br /><br />I think there is still however a whole cottage industry of building up companies with no revenue and flipping them (ex. Twitter).  Only a few very high profile investors with strong connections to the potential acquiring companies will be able to generate returns on these companies however.<div class="action_bar" id="__w2_c4sU83v_answer_actions"><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_889"><a class="view_comments supp " href="#" id="__w2_EDqVWds_view_comment_link">7 Comments</a></span><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_890"><a class="answer_permalink" href="/Does-the-Silicon-Valley-mindset-give-companies-a-pass-for-not-having-a-business-model-because-that-would-hinder-innovation/answer/Brandon-Smietana"><span class="datetime" id="__w2_eRdYVUz_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></a><span id="ld_5sX5ZH_930"></span></span></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_891"><div class="comments answer_comments hidden" id="__w2_W8h6wtk_answer_comments"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_931"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1001"><a name="comment125063"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_qeyQWBm_comment"><p class="comment_text">&quot;Historically, most mergers and acquisitions are futile and are a waste of money.  Sometimes they are strategic, but more often they are represent a net loss of value for the acquiring company, but companies keep doing these large value destroying acquisitions f<wbr />or unknown reasons.&quot;<br /><br />These deals are driven by investment banks, who generate handsome fees from these deals. For large company CEOs, these acquisitions offer a fast way to show their board that they can continue fast growth. Then they exit, passing the problem on to the next guy.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Paul-Denlinger">Paul Denlinger</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_VgIKFot_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1002"><a name="comment125065"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_diXKYGv_comment"><p class="comment_text">Paul, that is a good point.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Brandon-Smietana">Brandon Smietana</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_vzZl0hU_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1003"><a name="comment125071"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_dxpi6NH_comment"><p class="comment_text">One need only look at Apples acquisition list to see that Steve Jobs has a finely tuned understanding of this dynamic. The largest acquisition Apple has made was pre Jobs and it was the purchase of Next in order to get him back to Apple after that all Apple buys have been much smaller.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Gary-Stein">Gary Stein</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_KBwRzxH_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1004"><div class="comment comment_dotdotdot p0_5"><a class="supp" href="#" onclick="$(&#039;.hidden_comments_158651&#039;).toggleClass(&#039;hidden&#039;);
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rounds.</li><li>Facebook was break-even on gifts and display advertising by the time of its VC rounds.  Your valuation is much higher if you have revenues.</li><li>Facebook&#039;s early investors were very prominent and they bid up Facebook&#039;s valuation.  The social connection of the early employees and high profile angels (Anderson, Thiel) ensured that Facebook had many high profile venture firms interested in the company.  This was essential to establishing a competitive valuation process.</li><li>Facebook had multiple offers and was able to start a valuation bidding war between investors.  If you have multiple interested investors, you will have a better valuation.  It is impossible to have a competitive valuation process with only a single interested investor.</li><li>Sean Parker.</li></ul></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_54"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">5</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Why-do-most-funded-startups-have-web-based-products-while-desktop-producing-companies-usually-bootstrap/answer/Brandon-Smietana">Why do most funded startups have web-based products, while desktop-producing companies usually bootstrap?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_QsqYVL9_truncated"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_60"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>Web apps are more difficult to monetize.   I had a website with 250,000 MAU and we were barely able to break even on the server costs ($200/month).... <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_fZSnw6e_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_QsqYVL9_expanded"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_61">Web apps are more difficult to monetize.   I had a website with 250,000 MAU and we were barely able to break even on the server costs ($200/month).  Twitter&#039;s Average Revenue Per Users (ARPU) is zero.<br /><br />With desktop apps, people at least pay you money.<br /><br />Companies like Digg have 15 million a year in revenue on ads, but cannot even break even.  Digg without venture capital would be insolvent.  Myspace is losing money and has tens of millions of users.<br /><br />Facebook&#039;s eCPM rates on their ad inventory are lower than the eCPM rates on porn sites.<br /><br />It is extremely difficult to break even in web apps unless you can get users to pay you.  Your only exit options are acquisitions.</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_55"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">4</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Does-the-Silicon-Valley-mindset-give-companies-a-pass-for-not-having-a-business-model-because-that-would-hinder-innovation/answer/Brandon-Smietana">Does the Silicon Valley mindset give companies a pass for not having a business model because that would hinder innovation?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_xarEDH7_truncated"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_62"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>There are two types of companies.  There are web 2.0 companies that have lots of eye-balls (content) and there are companies with business models. <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_irXQLDD_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_xarEDH7_expanded"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_63">There are two types of companies.  There are web 2.0 companies that have lots of eye-balls (content) and there are companies with business models.<br /><br />For instance, tech crunch sold for 40 million.<br /><br />If you have a startup with 6000 subscribers at $30/month and you sell your company for 20x earnings.  That is 43 million dollars.<br /><br />If you are ad supported and your eCPM rate is $0.05 cents (like Facebook/4-Chan/Dating sites), then you need 3.6 billion page views per month to hit 40 million valuation at 20x earnings.<br /><br />Alternatively, you can find 60 companies that will pay you $3000 a month for a service (SaS) and have a 40 million valuation at 20x earnings.<br /><br />The idea behind many of these Web 2.0 sites like Slide and Path is not to make money.  The idea is that Google and Microsoft have made offers for twitter that value the company at over $60 per active user.<br /><br />The assets of the company are the employees, the platform and user-base; not the revenue stream of the company.<br /><br />It would probably be more effective for Google to pay people $60 per active Buzz user they sign up, than to buy Twitter at $60/user, but they will try to buy Twitter anyways.  Yahoo made an offer to Facebook of $260 per user.  Will Facebook even be able to realize revenues of $260 per user over the lifetime of the user?<br /><br />Companies will pay a premium to acquire platform control and to buy companies like Path to acquire their user-bases.  It is not very clear why they will pay a premium for these users if they have no effective way of monetizing the user-base.<br /><br />Technology companies in general do not pay dividends and often have a cash hoard they need to get rid of.  Google has so much money that it is opening up a corporate bond trading desk to invest it.  Maybe a 300 million dollar acquisition of a company like Slide at $50 a user increases the market cap of companies like Google, more than the loss of cash decreases the market cap of these companies.<br /><br />Historically, most mergers and acquisitions are futile and are a waste of money.  Sometimes they are strategic, but more often they are represent a net loss of value for the acquiring company, but companies keep doing these large value destroying acquisitions f<wbr />or unknown reasons.<br /><br />People will continue to start companies with no business model and no expectations for revenue, as long as these companies continue to be bought.<br /><br />Smaller, early stage acquisitions howeve<wbr />r can create value and are a valuable source of new products and technological innovations.  This is one reasons angel portfolios have been doing so well in recent years.  These companies usually exit below 30 million and the returns are too small to interest traditional VC funds, but they have been out-performing VC by a wide margin.<br /><br />I think there is still however a whole cottage industry of building up companies with no revenue and flipping them (ex. Twitter).  Only a few very high profile investors with strong connections to the potential acquiring companies will be able to generate returns on these companies however.</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_56"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">3</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Which-fast-serial-algorithms-dont-have-efficient-parallel-equivalents/answer/Brandon-Smietana">Which fast serial algorithms don&#039;t have efficient parallel equivalents?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_wffp2Sl_truncated"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_64"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>Cycle detection in directed graphs has linear time serial algorithms, however it is provable difficult to parallize.  The fastest parallel algorith... <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_Bfdk5tP_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_wffp2Sl_expanded"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_65">Cycle detection in directed graphs has linear time serial algorithms, however it is provable difficult to parallize.  The fastest parallel algorithms scale as sqrt(n) where n is the number of processors.<br /><br />This is very interesting because cycle detection algorithms are a critical part of 3-SAT solvers and it suggests that they may be difficult to scale out over multiple CPUs without a shared memory architecture.  However in practice you are often only interested in small degree cycles and there are efficient algorithms for detecting these.<br /><br />These problems will become a more important performance bottleneck as OWL and semantic web reasoners are deployed on web-scale dataset that require distributed computing.</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_M9jVwE_57"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">3</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/If-the-U-S-Capital-Gains-tax-rate-went-back-to-20-what-would-happen/answer/Brandon-Smietana">If the U.S. Capital Gains tax rate went back to 20%, what would happen?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_PuelNyR_truncated"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_66"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>The capital gains tax is an implicit tax on wealth, because nominal increases in asset value are taxed and not the inflation adjusted purchasing po... <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_EFu20FJ_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_PuelNyR_expanded"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_67">The capital gains tax is an implicit tax on wealth, because nominal increases in asset value are taxed and not the inflation adjusted purchasing power of the assets being held for investment.<br /><br />A 33% increase in the capital gains tax, to 20%, will severely erode capital accumulation in America (even more than the current 15% tax).<br /><br />The transition to a higher capital gains tax rate combined with a high inflation rate and currency devaluation could mark the end of the American empire.  An increase in the capital gains tax rate will accelerate capital flight.  It is believed by many economists that an increase in the capital gains tax rate will decrease tax revenues.<br /><br />Tax revenues are maximized when capital accumulation is maximized and economic studies suggest that tax revenue is maximized when the capital gains tax rates are zero.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="footer wrapper"><div class="contents"><div class="footer_nav row"><div class="e_col footer_links w8"><div id="ld_M9jVwE_47"><ul class="nav_list"><li class="about"><a href="/about">About</a></li><li class="jobs"><a href="/jobs">Jobs</a></li><li class="privacy"><a href="/about/privacy">Privacy</a></li><li class="tos"><a href="/about/tos">Terms</a></li><li class="press"><a href="/press">Press</a></li><li><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span></li><li class="signup"><a href="/login/index">Login</a></li><li class="signup"><a href="/signup/index">Sign Up</a></li><li class="mobile nav_sub_item"><a href="#" id="__w2_VbCqEwo_mobile_site">Mobile Site</a></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="above_page_banner hidden" id="__w2_YeGBNxK_banner">There are some updates to this page that haven&#039;t been applied yet because you&#039;ve entered some data into a form. 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I&#039;m guessing it was bought for what its team could build for Google.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_wPPxVh7_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1034"><a name="comment125333"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_DgwjIjO_comment"><p class="comment_text">Also, Gary, arguably Apple made a bad decision not outbidding Google on AdMob.<br /><br />Some markets are too important to underbid on the top company.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_fCPU0tx_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1005"><a name="comment125347"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_uGZ7dna_comment"><p class="comment_text">Could be though I don&#039;t think we will know the results of that for awhile. I think Job&#039;s wants to kern IOS a closed garden and lock out other ad servers so as long as he has the numbers of users to be competive the ad network isn&#039;t as important if it&#039;s a monopoly.</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Gary-Stein">Gary Stein</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_ghokttD_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_1006"><a name="comment125357"></a><div class="comment p0_5" id="__w2_IxkjDNO_comment"><p class="comment_text">Great point -- he&#039;s not trying to maximize profit here, he&#039;s trying to strategically lock developers in and lock competitors out.<br /><br />For those goals I say: well done!</p><p class="action_bar"><a class="user" href="/Adam-Rifkin">Adam Rifkin</a><span class="bullet"> &bull; </span><span class="datetime" id="__w2_w8E2uBA_datespan">Insert a dynamic date here</span></p></div></div></div><div class="comment light p0_5">Cannot add comment at this time.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_731"><div class="hidden" id="__w2_gIDTOnW_loading"><span class="__wn2_loading"><span class="__wn2_loading_spinner"></span><span class="__wn2_loading_text">Loading...</span></span></div><div class="pager_next action_button" id="__w2_gIDTOnW_more">More</div></div></div></div></div><div class="e_col w2_5 side_col"><div class="row"><div class="e_col w1 p1"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_691"><div class="profile_photo"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_694"><a href="/Brandon-Smietana"><img class="profile_photo_img" src="http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-thumb-6673-100-iQY07uHy4EIxliIOKB2oVtdnn7FsdmZc.jpeg" width="100" alt="Brandon Smietana" height="100" /></a></div></div></div></div><div class="e_col w1_5 side_col p1"><div class="light page_opts row"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_692"><ul class="action_list"></ul></div></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_693"><div class="row p1"><div class="col mini_count first"><a href="/Brandon-Smietana/followers"><strong>471</strong><br />Followers</a></div><div class="col mini_count "><a href="/Brandon-Smietana/following"><strong>301</strong><br />Following</a></div><div class="col mini_count "><a href="/Brandon-Smietana/mentions"><strong>21</strong><br />@Mentions</a></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_689"><div class="row section p1" id="answers"><strong>Recent Top Answers</strong><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_696"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">35</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/How-did-Mark-Zuckerberg-retain-26-of-equity-after-so-many-rounds-of-financing/answer/Brandon-Smietana">How did Mark Zuckerberg retain 26% of equity after so many rounds of financing?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_sS6544S_truncated"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_701"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>There are several factors<br />... <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_V8woLbU_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_sS6544S_expanded"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_702">There are several factors<br /><br /><ul><li>Mark Zuckerberg retained board control and therefore was able to block dilutive and unnecessary &quot;inside&quot; rounds.</li><li>Facebook was break-even on gifts and display advertising by the time of its VC rounds.  Your valuation is much higher if you have revenues.</li><li>Facebook&#039;s early investors were very prominent and they bid up Facebook&#039;s valuation.  The social connection of the early employees and high profile angels (Anderson, Thiel) ensured that Facebook had many high profile venture firms interested in the company.  This was essential to establishing a competitive valuation process.</li><li>Facebook had multiple offers and was able to start a valuation bidding war between investors.  If you have multiple interested investors, you will have a better valuation.  It is impossible to have a competitive valuation process with only a single interested investor.</li><li>Sean Parker.</li></ul></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_697"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">17</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Is-it-acceptable-to-cold-call-someone-via-private-message-on-Quora/answer/Brandon-Smietana">Is it acceptable to &quot;cold call&quot; someone via private message on Quora?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_fQdnCq2_truncated"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_703"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>I have met a bunch of interesting people who have cold-called me because they read something I wrote. <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_ZWRg1U5_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_fQdnCq2_expanded"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_704">I have met a bunch of interesting people who have cold-called me because they read something I wrote.<br /><br />Many people would be upset if messaging other users was banned unless you are following each other.</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_698"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">5</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Why-do-most-funded-startups-have-Web-based-products-while-desktop-producing-companies-usually-bootstrap/answer/Brandon-Smietana">Why do most funded startups have Web-based products, while desktop-producing companies usually bootstrap?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_s23hORg_truncated"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_705"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>Web apps are more difficult to monetize.   I had a website with 250,000 MAU and we were barely able to break even on the server costs ($200/month).... <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_D6SQEOk_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_s23hORg_expanded"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_706">Web apps are more difficult to monetize.   I had a website with 250,000 MAU and we were barely able to break even on the server costs ($200/month).  Twitter&#039;s Average Revenue Per Users (ARPU) is zero.<br /><br />With desktop apps, people at least pay you money.<br /><br />Companies like Digg have 15 million a year in revenue on ads, but cannot even break even.  Digg without venture capital would be insolvent.  Myspace is losing money and has tens of millions of users.<br /><br />Facebook&#039;s eCPM rates on their ad inventory are lower than the eCPM rates on porn sites.<br /><br />It is extremely difficult to break even in web apps unless you can get users to pay you.  Your only exit options are acquisitions.</div></div></div></div></div><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_699"><div class="feed_item stream_feed_item p1 row"><div class="w0_5 e_col"><div class="big_number_stat"><div class="number">4</div><div class="text">Votes</div></div></div><div class="e_col side_col w2"><div class="feed_item_question"><h2><a href="/Does-the-Silicon-Valley-mindset-give-companies-a-pass-for-not-having-a-business-model-because-that-would-hinder-innovation/answer/Brandon-Smietana">Does the Silicon Valley mindset give companies a pass for not having a business model because that would hinder innovation?</a></h2></div><div class="inline" id="__w2_CYoq1GL_truncated"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_707"><div class="truncated_thumbnail_holder"></div>There are two types of companies.  There are web 2.0 companies that have lots of eye-balls (content) and there are companies with business models. <a class="more_link" href="#" id="__w2_o8VwQPF_more_link">(more)</a> </div></div><div class="hidden expanded_q_text" id="__w2_CYoq1GL_expanded"><div id="ld_5sX5ZH_708">There are two types of companies.  There are web 2.0 companies that have lots of eye-balls (content) and there are companies with business models.<br /><br />For instance, tech crunch sold for 40 million.<br /><br />If you have a startup with 6000 subscribers at $30/month and you sell your company for 20x earnings.  That is 43 million dollars.<br /><br />If you are ad supported and your eCPM rate is $0.05 cents (like Facebook/4-Chan/Dating sites), then you need 3.6 billion page views per month to hit 40 million valuation at 20x earnings.<br /><br />Alternatively, you can find 60 companies that will pay you $3000 a month for a service (SaS) and have a 40 million valuation at 20x earnings.<br /><br />The idea behind many of these Web 2.0 sites like Slide and Path is not to make money.  The idea is that Google and Microsoft have made offers for twitter that value the company at over $60 per active user.<br /><br />The assets of the company are the employees, the platform and user-base; not the revenue stream of the company.<br /><br />It would probably be more effective for Google to pay people $60 per active Buzz user they sign up, than to buy Twitter at $60/user, but they will try to buy Twitter anyways.  Yahoo made an offer to Facebook of $260 per user.  Will Facebook even be able to realize revenues of $260 per user over the lifetime of the user?<br /><br />Companies will pay a premium to acquire platform control and to buy companies like Path to acquire their user-bases.  It is not very clear why they will pay a premium for these users if they have no effective way of monetizing the user-base.<br /><br />Technology companies in general do not pay dividends and often have a cash hoard they need to get rid of.  Google has so much money that it is opening up a corporate bond trading desk to invest it.  Maybe a 300 million dollar acquisition of a company like Slide at $50 a user increases the market cap of companies like Google, more than the loss of cash decreases the market cap of these companies.<br /><br />Historically, most mergers and acquisitions are futile and are a waste of money.  Sometimes they are strategic, but more often they are represent a net loss of value for the acquiring company, but companies keep doing these large value destroying acquisitions f<wbr />or unknown reasons.<br /><br />People will continue to start companies with no business model and no expectations for revenue, as long as these companies continue to be bought.<br /><br />Smaller, early stage acquisitions howeve<wbr />r can create value and are a valuable source of new products and technological innovations.  This is one reasons angel portfolios have been doing so well in recent years.  These companies usually exit below 30 million and the returns are too small to interest traditional VC funds, but they have been out-performing VC by a wide margin.<br /><br />I think there is still however a whole cottage industry of building up companies with no revenue and flipping them (ex. 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