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  1. data/README.md +4 -2
  2. data/lib/hn.rb +3 -1
  3. data/lib/hn/models/comment.rb +10 -0
  4. data/lib/hn/models/entry.rb +4 -1
  5. data/lib/hn/parsers/comment_parser.rb +35 -0
  6. data/lib/hn/parsers/entry_parser.rb +26 -18
  7. data/lib/hn/version.rb +1 -1
  8. data/spec/fixtures/comments.html +104 -0
  9. data/spec/fixtures/home.html +1 -1
  10. data/spec/hn/engine_spec.rb +0 -4
  11. data/spec/hn/models/entry_spec.rb +11 -0
  12. data/spec/hn/parsers/comment_parser_spec.rb +27 -0
  13. data/spec/hn/parsers/entry_parser_spec.rb +2 -3
  14. metadata +24 -16
data/README.md CHANGED
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  A tiny gem to fetch Hacker News entries
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+ [![Build Status](https://secure.travis-ci.org/forresty/hn.png?branch=master)](http://travis-ci.org/forresty/hn)
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  ![hn gem](http://forresty.com/images/hn.png)
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  ## Installation
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  require 'hn'
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- # return 30 homepage entries
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+ # return up to 30 homepage entries
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  HackerNews::Engine.homepage
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- # return 30 newest entries
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+ # return up to 30 newest entries
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  HackerNews::Engine.newest
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  ## Contributing
data/lib/hn.rb CHANGED
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  require "hn/version"
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  require "hn/common"
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  require "hn/models/entry"
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+ require "hn/models/comment"
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  require "hn/parsers/entry_parser"
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- require "hn/engine"
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+ require "hn/parsers/comment_parser"
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+ require "hn/engine"
data/lib/hn/models/comment.rb ADDED
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+ module HackerNews
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+ class Comment
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+ attr_accessor :id, :username, :time_string, :level, :children
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+
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+ def initialize
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+ @children = []
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+ yield self if block_given?
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+ end
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+ end
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+ end
data/lib/hn/models/entry.rb CHANGED
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  def initialize
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  yield self if block_given?
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- self
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+ end
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+
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+ def [](attribute)
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+ instance_variable_get("@#{attribute.to_s}")
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  end
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  end
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  end
data/lib/hn/parsers/comment_parser.rb ADDED
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+ require "nokogiri"
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+ require "open-uri"
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+ require "chronic"
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+
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+ module HackerNews
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+ class CommentParser
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+ def parse(entry_id)
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+ doc = Nokogiri::HTML(open("http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=#{entry_id}"))
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+ comment_data = doc.css('td.default').map { |td| extract_comment_from_td(td) }
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+ comments = []
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+
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+ comment_data.each_with_index do |c, index|
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+ if c.level == 0
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+ comments << c
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+ else
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+ parent = comment_data[0...index].select { |cm| cm.level == c.level - 1 }.last
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+ parent.children << c
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+ end
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+ end
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+ comments
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+ end
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+
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+ private
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+
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+ def extract_comment_from_td(td)
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+ Comment.new do |c|
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+ c.username = td.at_css('span.comhead a').text rescue nil
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+ c.time_string = td.at_css('span.comhead a').next.text.sub('|', '').strip rescue nil
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+ c.id = td.css('span.comhead a')[1]['href'].match(/item\?id=(\d+)/)[1] rescue -1
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+ c.level = td.parent.at_css('td img').attr('width').to_i / 40 rescue 0
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+ end
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+ end
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+ end
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+ end
data/lib/hn/parsers/entry_parser.rb CHANGED
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  trs = tbody.css('tr').to_a
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- Entry.new do |entry|
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- entry.link = trs[i*3].at_css('td.title a')['href']
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- entry.link = site_name + entry.link unless entry.link =~ /^http/
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- entry.title = trs[i*3].at_css('td.title a').text
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- entry.site = trs[i*3].at_css('td.title span.comhead').text.match(/\((.+)\)/)[1] rescue nil
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- entry.points = trs[i*3+1].at_css('td.subtext span').text.to_i rescue -1
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- entry.username = trs[i*3+1].at_css('td.subtext a').text rescue nil
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- entry.time_string = trs[i*3+1].at_css('td.subtext a').next.text.sub('|', '').strip rescue nil
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- entry.submitted_at = Chronic.parse entry.time_string
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- entry.num_comments = trs[i*3+1].css('td.subtext a')[1].text.to_i rescue -1
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- begin
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- entry.id = trs[i*3+1].css('td.subtext a')[1]['href'].match(/\d+/)[0].to_i
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- rescue
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- entry.id = entry.link.match(/^http:\/\/news\.ycombinator\.com\/item\?id=(\d+)$/)[1].to_i
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- end
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+ parse_entry(trs, i)
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+ end.compact
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+ end
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+ private
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+ def parse_entry(trs, i)
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+ Entry.new do |entry|
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+ entry.link = trs[i*3].at_css('td.title a')['href']
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+ entry.link = site_name + entry.link unless entry.link =~ /^http/
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+ entry.title = trs[i*3].at_css('td.title a').text
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+ entry.site = trs[i*3].at_css('td.title span.comhead').text.match(/\((.+)\)/)[1] rescue nil
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+ entry.points = trs[i*3+1].at_css('td.subtext span').text.to_i rescue -1
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+ entry.username = trs[i*3+1].at_css('td.subtext a').text rescue nil
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+ entry.time_string = trs[i*3+1].at_css('td.subtext a').next.text.sub('|', '').strip rescue nil
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+ entry.submitted_at = Chronic.parse entry.time_string
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+ entry.num_comments = trs[i*3+1].css('td.subtext a')[1].text.to_i rescue -1
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+ begin
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+ entry.id = trs[i*3+1].css('td.subtext a')[1]['href'].match(/\d+/)[0].to_i
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+ rescue
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+ entry.id = entry.link.match(/^http:\/\/news\.ycombinator\.com\/item\?id=(\d+)$/)[1].to_i
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  end
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  end
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+ VERSION = "0.0.5"
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+ <html><head><link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://ycombinator.com/news.css">
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+ <link rel="shortcut icon" href="http://ycombinator.com/favicon.ico">
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+ <script>
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+ function byId(id) {
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+ return document.getElementById(id);
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+ }
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+ function vote(node) {
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+ var v = node.id.split(/_/); // {'up', '123'}
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+ var item = v[1];
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+ // hide arrows
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+ byId('up_' + item).style.visibility = 'hidden';
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+ byId('down_' + item).style.visibility = 'hidden';
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+ // ping server
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+ var ping = new Image();
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+ ping.src = node.href;
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+ return false; // cancel browser nav
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+ } </script><title>Hang Around with People who Get Shit Done | Hacker News</title></head><body><center><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width="85%" bgcolor=#f6f6ef><tr><td bgcolor=#ff6600><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width="100%" style="padding:2px"><tr><td style="width:18px;padding-right:4px"><a href="http://ycombinator.com"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/y18.gif" width=18 height=18 style="border:1px #ffffff solid;"></img></a></td><td style="line-height:12pt; height:10px;"><span class="pagetop"><b><a href="news">Hacker News</a></b><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=10><a href="newest">new</a> | <a href="newcomments">comments</a> | <a href="ask">ask</a> | <a href="jobs">jobs</a> | <a href="submit">submit</a></span></td><td style="text-align:right;padding-right:4px;"><span class="pagetop"><a href="newslogin?whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">login</a></span></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr style="height:10px"></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><center><a id=up_4084603 href="vote?for=4084603&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084603></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://jaxn.org/article/hang-around-with-people-who-get-shit-done">Hang Around with People who Get Shit Done</a><span class="comhead"> (jaxn.org) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=1></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4084603>213 points</span> by <a href="user?id=jaxn">jaxn</a> 15 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084603">73 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:10px"></tr><tr><td></td><td><form method=post action="/r"><input type=hidden name="fnid" value="2IkxJIwK0S"><textarea name="text" rows=6 cols=60></textarea><br><br>
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+ <table border=0><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085001 href="vote?for=4085001&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085001></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=eykanal">eykanal</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085001">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>In the realm of "productivity", there are many different personality types:<p>- People with vision, who can recognize potential in a concept or idea<p>- People who, given an idea, can conceptualize all the use cases and rare exceptions<p>- People who can initiate projects and provide good momentum for all those involved<p>- People who take a task, buckle, down and get their part done<p>- People who carefully examine other folks' work to check for mistakes<p>- People who can take a languishing project and bring it through to completion<p>- People who play constructive devil's advocate, helping you consider all the possible risks<p>- People with all sorts of other skills that I didn't think of right now<p>- People who slack<p>When building a team, you'll need almost all of these personality types (you could probably leave out the slacker, though). Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater by only looking for the "manager" types or the "coder" types.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085001&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085110 href="vote?for=4085110&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085110></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=fragsworth">fragsworth</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085110">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Might just be me, but I feel like you're really over-analyzing things here.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085110&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085348 href="vote?for=4085348&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085348></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=wtvanhest">wtvanhest</a> 13 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085348">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Ah, the constructive devil's advocate.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085348&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4086731 href="vote?for=4086731&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4086731></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=joe_the_user">joe_the_user</a> 7 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4086731">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Only because the article under-analyzes things...</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4086731&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085099 href="vote?for=4085099&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085099></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=bostonpete">bostonpete</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085099">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Do you really mean personality types? These seem like traits that aren't mutually exclusive...</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085099&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085136 href="vote?for=4085136&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085136></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=eykanal">eykanal</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085136">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Some people will embody a few of these, but the more you combine the more rare the person is.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085136&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=120></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085262 href="vote?for=4085262&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085262></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=bostonpete">bostonpete</a> 13 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085262">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I suppose so -- but I guess that's probably true of any set of exceptional traits/skills.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085262&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085031 href="vote?for=4085031&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085031></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=pault">pault</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085031">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Even the slackers?</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085031&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085707 href="vote?for=4085707&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085707></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=run4yourlives">run4yourlives</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085707">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>It's been my experience that slackers are often demoralized visionaries. When you tell someone that they have nothing to add for long enough, eventually they start believing it.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085707&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=120></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4086796 href="vote?for=4086796&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4086796></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=seanp2k2">seanp2k2</a> 6 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4086796">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Sadly though, all the potential in the world doesn't matter if you don't apply yourself. I'm currently on a team of
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+ slackers and stuck projects, and moving to silicon valley in the next 30 days (already have a job there.)<p>I fully expect the next few years to be my most productive ever, because I'm coming into a team that makes me feel like a total novice in the best way possible. They're very nice and willing to share their knowledge while we hone our craft together. I can't wait.<p>Anyone in mountain view up for some road biking and learning how to kiteboard in the next few months? I also climb, but I'm a bit rusty/heavy.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4086796&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=120></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4086507 href="vote?for=4086507&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4086507></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=wtracy">wtracy</a> 8 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4086507">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Sometimes.<p>Then there's the guy I knew in college who spent hours of every day playing Runescape and who once told me that his math teacher had said to him: "You are the smartest student I have ever had fail this class."</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4086507&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085046 href="vote?for=4085046&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085046></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=eykanal">eykanal</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085046">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Dang, I deleted a sentence. Thanks for point that out. Edited to amend.<p>Slackers are fun to hang out with, though...</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085046&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=120></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085204 href="vote?for=4085204&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085204></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=fferen">fferen</a> 13 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085204">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>"Morale-boosters".</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085204&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085500 href="vote?for=4085500&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085500></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=keithpeter">keithpeter</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085500">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Meredith Belbin?</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085500&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085450 href="vote?for=4085450&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085450></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=run4yourlives">run4yourlives</a> 13 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085450">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>This is - frankly - bad advice. Especially for a young child.<p>It's a bad idea to pigeon hole yourself into "hanging around" one type of person or one people who are dominant in one type of trait. The whole reason people build teams is to maximize differing traits to gain the most value from each. You'll gain the most from life from leaning to recognize this as early as possible.<p>In this case, people that "get things done" at youth levels are generally those with strong implementation skills - the "doers" of the world if it were. But implementers are only part of the picture. There are several other personality types that are just as beneficial to outcomes, and by excluding them you exclude many strengths in the name of pure productivity.<p>eykanal leads into this in his comment but I'd like to expand on it a bit.<p>Stereotyping examples here for ease of explanation:<p>People with strong vision and ideas tend to be able to see 10 steps ahead of others. However these people also tend to be horrible at getting things done on their own. Their joy is looking forward, not being in the moment. Without these people however, we cannot move forward. These people will be the ones that think it would be neat to build an Eiffel Tower out of toothpicks in the first place.<p>People with an eye for detail tend to be strong editors/coaches etc. These people might not dream up new approaches or work hard to see them to completion, but they are experts at critique and can notice, for instance, that the toothpick Eiffel Tower could be 3 feet higher if you simply adjusted the angle at which you glued the toothpicks together by 5 degrees.<p>People who "get shit done" often tend to be implementers. They may have seen that toothpick Eiffel Tower in a book or heard about it from a friend, but they went out and got the resources and started putting things together.<p>My entire point: None of these people are more or less valuable than any other. It isn't the skill-set that is the important variable, but the degree at which the person employs their talents that matters. Suggesting your child should "hang around" the implementers <i>while discarding others</i> is basically teaching them that only certain key talents are valuable and the rest are garbage.<p>That type of thinking actually <i>reduces</i> their long term chances of success, because like it or not, no one person can be outstandingly good at every viable human talent. People who realize what they aren't good at will team up with others who excel in that talent and will get much further ahead overall.<p>Accept and reject <i>individuals</i>. Don't evaluate personality types. Some of the most profound thinkers in history were slackers. Some of the best coaches of elite athletes suck at the sports they teach.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085450&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085557 href="vote?for=4085557&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085557></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=jaxn">jaxn</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085557">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>OP here.<p>It was not my intent to pigeon hole people based on their outcomes. Time spent doing is different than creating or implementing.<p>For instance, reading all of the Harry Potter books is getting something done too. Flipping channels on the couch all day, not so much. The skateboard example in my post is also a good one - that is getting something done. Standing around the ramp and pretending to skate isn't.<p>Also, coaching is doing something cool.<p>As for the comment about visionaries. Doesn't that only matter if they can sell their vision? And wouldn't "selling a vision" be getting something done. (I don't mean sales in the $$$ way, just in the sense of transferring the vision to others and maybe inspiring action)<p>Thinking isn't really doing, but sharing those thoughts is. Frankly, the most profound thinkers who never shared their thoughts in a way that impacted others had no real impact on the world.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085557&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085692 href="vote?for=4085692&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085692></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=run4yourlives">run4yourlives</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085692">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Thanks for your comment.<p>Visionary skills - especially in children - are often discouraged harshly as "slacking" in our productivity obsessed culture.<p>Like any skill, it needs to be nurtured and encouraged. It takes tremendous self-confidence and guts to voice that you see something could be improved. The world is not normally kind to these people. True visionary skill isn't often seen until the college years. Interestingly enough, it's in college that this type of skillset starts to be rewarded.<p>It also needs to be practiced, and this is where I think you react too heavily in your judgement.<p><i>Flipping channels on the couch all day, not so much.</i>
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+ <i>Standing around the ramp and pretending to skate isn't.</i><p>The fact is that in many cases, there might be a hell of a lot of activity happening in that child that isn't immediately evident to you. The child might be thinking of how it would be really cool to have a laser like that guy in the cartoon and pondering all the things that could be accomplished with such a device. The other kid might be looking at the skateboard and wondering if the board could be shortened half a foot to make landings easier.<p>Yet, you've discarded these kids. They are slackers that you don't want your child to associate with. They don't produce anything after all. That's a poor lesson to teach.<p>Be clear, this isn't to say that there aren't some kids that are just lazy couch potatoes, but the point is that you can only figure this out by getting to know the child. The idea that becomes the seed for your child's life mission could very well come from the person you've told him to avoid. How sad is that?</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085692&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085935 href="vote?for=4085935&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085935></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=TwiztidK">TwiztidK</a> 11 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085935">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>"For instance, reading all of the Harry Potter books is getting something done too. Flipping channels on the couch all day, not so much."<p>I've always found it interesting that reading, as a form of entertainment, always seems to be held on a pedestal compared to television, cinema, or videogames. It's a kind of elitism that the literati hold over everyone who doesn't find reading as enjoyable as them. Consider this: one person reads the entire Harry Potter series and another reads the entire Twilight series, both are reading but the quality of the material is completely different. Assuming that literature is de facto superior to any other form entertainment is completely ignorant and wrong.<p>In this case, swap "flipping channels all day", which could include watching informative shows such as Bill Nye, How It's Made, or Mythbusters, with "watching Jersy Shore all day" and confusion about entertainment quality preferences are removed.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085935&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=120></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4087419 href="vote?for=4087419&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4087419></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=shykes">shykes</a> 49 minutes ago | <a href="item?id=4087419">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I mostly agree with you, with a caveat: reading involves practicing an increasingly scarce skill: the ability to focus for long periods of time.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4087419&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=120></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4086585 href="vote?for=4086585&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4086585></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=PotatoEngineer">PotatoEngineer</a> 7 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4086585">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Reading is a skill you'll use all your life, and reading books - even, say, the World Weekly News - still sharpens that skill.<p>Granted, I'd rather kids read something more enlightening than the World Weekly News.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4086585&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=120></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4086617 href="vote?for=4086617&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4086617></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=jaxn">jaxn</a> 7 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4086617">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I think your perception is correct. Not sure if it is justified or not.<p>I suspect there is a positive correlation to time spent reading with success measures like education level, test scores, etc. I also suspect the correlation to TV time is more along the lines of being overweight, unemployment, etc.<p>Any science behind that? Nope. Sort of a confirmation of the stereotype you are suggesting. I could look for studies to prove / disprove it, but I would likely suffer from confirmation bias.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4086617&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084944 href="vote?for=4084944&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084944></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=knowtheory">knowtheory</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084944">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Dude totally buries the lede.<p>You gain respect from others who get shit done by <i>getting shit done</i>. It's not just important to hang around folks who do things, you need to participate in the community by doing things yourself.<p>The advice "hang around people who do things" and "dump people who don't do things" is very much losing the forest for the trees.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084944&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085009 href="vote?for=4085009&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085009></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=matwood">matwood</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085009">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000><i>It's not just important to hang around folks who do things, you need to participate in the community by doing things yourself.</i><p>I would think this is obvious. To me the biggest part about hanging out with people who get stuff done is seeing what it takes to get stuff done, and then doing that.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085009&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4086326 href="vote?for=4086326&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4086326></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=cema">cema</a> 9 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4086326">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000><p><pre><code> You gain respect from others who get shit done by getting shit done.
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+ I have often found it ("getting shit done") contagious. Somehow it feels right to roll up the sleeves when people around you do the same.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4086326&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4086536 href="vote?for=4086536&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4086536></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=ktizo">ktizo</a> 8 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4086536">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Getting shit done <i>is</i> contagious. Be very careful to work out what kind of shit the people who get shit done are doing before you start hanging out with people who get shit done. A whole lot of shit might happen. You might get done. Or everyone could end up in shit.<p>Alternatively, cool shit might get done. I'd say hang around with people who want to do cool shit and kick their arses into getting shit done if necessary.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4086536&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084967 href="vote?for=4084967&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084967></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=jaxn">jaxn</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084967">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>To me, that means it is a feedback loop. Hang around people who do things, do things, more people who do things hang around, etc.<p>Thanks for the feedback.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084967&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084998 href="vote?for=4084998&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084998></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=nik_0_0">nik_0_0</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084998">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>It is a feedback loop, but how can you hang around people who do things in the first place? Someone in your group has to be the one who initially does things, so why not make that you!</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084998&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084975 href="vote?for=4084975&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084975></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=moron">moron</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084975">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I would've thought people who get shit done don't do much hanging around, on account of all the shit they're getting done.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084975&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4086044 href="vote?for=4086044&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4086044></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=spaghetti">spaghetti</a> 10 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4086044">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>It's true. People who get stuff done are rare. Hence finding other people to hang around can be difficult.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4086044&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084879 href="vote?for=4084879&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084879></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=ZanderEarth32">ZanderEarth32</a> 15 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084879">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>While this advice is sound, it borders on extreme. I'd tell my kids (I don't have any, and don't plan on it btw) to hang around good people. Some of those good people will 'get shit done', others won't but there is something to gain from being around good people. Valuing people on their amount of output seems to cheapen their existence. I know a lot of people who don't 'get shit done' but are great people who I value, and I am happy to have in my life. I don't blame my lack of productivity on those around me.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084879&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084901 href="vote?for=4084901&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084901></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=citricsquid">citricsquid</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084901">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I'd guess the best way to summarise the type of people you mean are "positive" people. Positive in their outlook, attitude and output.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084901&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084908 href="vote?for=4084908&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084908></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=ZanderEarth32">ZanderEarth32</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084908">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Yes, 'positive' is a better way to describe the people I am referring to.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084908&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085600 href="vote?for=4085600&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085600></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=vijayr">vijayr</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085600">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>This is very true.<p>Just curious - aren't we all judged every single day, by how much 'useful' or 'productive' we are? At work, among friends, while trying to find a mate..heck, even within families.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085600&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085741 href="vote?for=4085741&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085741></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=ZanderEarth32">ZanderEarth32</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085741">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Yes, completely. And I don't believe it's healthy or beneficial. Developing a culture where only those who 'produce' or 'build cool shit' or 'get shit done' are valued can breed feelings of inadequecies in people who feel like they 'aren't keeping up'. This doesn't really apply to the work place, where those who produce should be valued over those who don't but outside of work, in 'real life', everything shouldn't be about how much you've done, or are doing. Sometimes, just being positive, or not doing anything harmful is good enough.<p>Every moment of you life shouldn't be devoted to doing stuff, unless you want it to. I find moments when I am not doing anything, or maybe watching TV, just as important to my personal development as when I am building stuff (trying in my case). It's about a holistic approach. 'Getting shit done' should be taken with moderation as should 'not getting shit done'.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085741&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=120></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085752 href="vote?for=4085752&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085752></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=Mz">Mz</a> 11 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085752">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>IME, too much emphasis on "getting shit done" can result in exactly that: What gets done is so shitty that you would be better off twiddling your thumbs and watching the dew dry with someone committed to first doing no harm.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085752&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084767 href="vote?for=4084767&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084767></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=T_S_">T_S_</a> 15 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084767">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I learned this a long time ago: "If you want to get something done ask a busy person to do it."</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084767&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085172 href="vote?for=4085172&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085172></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=ctdonath">ctdonath</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085172">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>And better is to decide to be a busy person.<p>My wife keeps asking where I get the energy to do so much. Answer: I don't, it's not about having the energy, it's about just doing what needs to be done.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085172&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085728 href="vote?for=4085728&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085728></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=run4yourlives">run4yourlives</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085728">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Just remember that life is what is happening while you are busy getting shit done.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085728&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084802 href="vote?for=4084802&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084802></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=jpwagner">jpwagner</a> 15 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084802">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Clearly good advice, but I'll add two cents.<p>Hang around people who are passionate about things and try to make your circle include people passionate about very different things.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084802&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085161 href="vote?for=4085161&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085161></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=efnx">efnx</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085161">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I totally agree with the poster, but at the same time it feels a little pretentious. I think people might have more fun if they just hung out with people that make them feel good, which may include 'people who get shit done' or 'people who are not overly judgmental' or 'people who really like playing magic'. It's easy to get caught up in constant productivity. There is merit to the phrase 'stopping to smell the flowers'. 2cents.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085161&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085268 href="vote?for=4085268&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085268></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=ctdonath">ctdonath</a> 13 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085268">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000><a href="http://www.xkcd.com/863/" rel="nofollow">http://www.xkcd.com/863/</a></font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085268&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085760 href="vote?for=4085760&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085760></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=ZanderEarth32">ZanderEarth32</a> 11 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085760">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Exactly. I hang out with my friends because we don't do shit together. We hang out, talking about random stuff, watch TV, play video games, etc. Most of the best times of my life have been when my friends and I aren't doing shit. Separately, we're all very productive, but our friendships aren't based on that.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085760&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084683 href="vote?for=4084683&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084683></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=hackNightly">hackNightly</a> 15 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084683">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>This is so true. Surrounding yourself with people who are making things happen is a sure fire way to get motivated. Not to mention, these are definitely the type of people you want to have around you when building a team. Very good post.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084683&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084935 href="vote?for=4084935&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084935></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=nswanberg">nswanberg</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084935">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>This advice generalizes well: if you want to lose weight or be fit, join a running club.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084935&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084970 href="vote?for=4084970&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084970></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=jaxn">jaxn</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084970">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Part of the inspiration for the post actually :)</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084970&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085482 href="vote?for=4085482&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085482></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=xd">xd</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085482">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>As a dad-to-be I find this "advice" to be awfully elitist and wouldn't entertain it with my child in the slightest. Judging your friends on there abilities is sad .. friendships are not made this way.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085482&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085638 href="vote?for=4085638&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085638></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=jaxn">jaxn</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085638">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I think we all try to teach our kids to avoid the mistakes that we made and to grow from the successes that we have had. Your lessons will likely be different from mine.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085638&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085196 href="vote?for=4085196&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085196></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=brlewis">brlewis</a> 13 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085196">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Anybody have a twitter list of people who always tweet about things they get done? I hardly use twitter, but would if I had such a list.<p>Related: Show HN posts: <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4053427" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4053427</a></font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085196&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085714 href="vote?for=4085714&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085714></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=amcintyre">amcintyre</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085714">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I'm going to guess that a non-trivial fraction of people that get things done don't bother tweeting about it.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085714&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084946 href="vote?for=4084946&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084946></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=EricDeb">EricDeb</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084946">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Nowadays I think a viable substitute is simply exposure to such people through a technical medium. A lot of my friends don't accomplish anything, yet I associate through technology with people and energy that inspires me to accomplish more.<p>I also think this advice can have negative repercussions. I have friends who think "I can only be disciplined and accomplish anything if I am around inspiring people," and use it as an excuse to accomplish nothing on their own and be an emotional leech when they are around successful people.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084946&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085039 href="vote?for=4085039&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085039></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=CubicleNinjas">CubicleNinjas</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085039">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Everyone believes they 'Get Shit Done'. Its just that everyone places value in different shit.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085039&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085273 href="vote?for=4085273&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085273></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=chexton">chexton</a> 13 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085273">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I interpret this in the sense that your environment is a key driver of your actions.<p>For me this is most evident when observing where I (/ my friends) live. If you live with people who drink four nights a week, guess what...you probably will too. If you live with people who cook healthy food and go running three times a week there is a much greater chance you will too.<p>Obviously you can rise above your surroundings but if you have a goal then you should put yourself in an environment conducive to getting there.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085273&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085299 href="vote?for=4085299&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085299></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=cbp">cbp</a> 13 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085299">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>People like to throw around this kind of advice often. Hanging around people who "get shit done" is a privilege that not everyone has. What happens when you go to a cheap college in Mexico where none of the computer science teachers have ever worked in a large scale application and most haven't even written one in their lives? How do you apply this advice when 90% of your classmates can't read a sentence of english and learning something unusual like python and deploying a toy app on some server not only puts you ahead by miles of the rest of your class but also of the rest of your entire generation? Some communities don't have this kind of people. Is someone in this position supposed to ditch everyone around him/her?</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085299&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085696 href="vote?for=4085696&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085696></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=aurelianito">aurelianito</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085696">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>If you have internet access, hang around on-line communities that get shit done that interests you. Open source projects are the trivial example, but there are other options too.<p>For instance, I do participate in flashmobs organized via Facebook and I didn't know anyone there the first time I went. Some friends are the core group of a well known latin-american mailing list dedicated to crack software (and most of them learned how to use cracking tools by hanging around in the list). These friends are from small towns around Argentina (where usually there are very few interesting people). Also, lots of charities and political parties are open for people who want to do things and organize via internet.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085696&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085688 href="vote?for=4085688&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085688></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=nswanberg">nswanberg</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085688">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Is this a hypothetical question or based on your experience?</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085688&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085162 href="vote?for=4085162&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085162></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=wilhow">wilhow</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085162">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>As the saying goes "show me your friends and I'll show you your future"</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085162&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085060 href="vote?for=4085060&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085060></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=ByteMuse">ByteMuse</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085060">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>This is great advice - I would like to add a bit of philosophy that someone once gave me:<p>Experience is more important than achievement.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085060&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085045 href="vote?for=4085045&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085045></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=neutronicus">neutronicus</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085045">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>As someone who does a pretty middling amount of shit in the grand scheme of things, articles like this make me sad.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085045&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084715 href="vote?for=4084715&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084715></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=ams6110">ams6110</a> 15 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084715">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>And the converse: avoid spending time with slackers.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084715&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084878 href="vote?for=4084878&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084878></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=brd">brd</a> 15 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084878">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Depends on your definition of slacker... The original article says "Getting air on a 10 foot tall ramp with a skateboard? Also cool." yet most people would describe a skateboarder as a slacker.<p>I think being around people that aren't necessarily "productive" is perfectly fine. It's being around people who do NOTHING that is bad but I find that if you are the kind of person who does things then you will find yourself around inactive people less and less over time.<p>Couch potatoes seem to attract one another and repel everyone else.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084878&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085077 href="vote?for=4085077&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085077></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=_delirium">_delirium</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085077">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>It does seem to be a fairly context-dependent term. A lot of people here are one kind: the kind of person who has enough time to accumulate thousands of posts on HN is, at least in some people's minds, a kind of slacker, the 2010s version of the 1990s posting-from-work Slashdotter. :)<p>It even takes a certain kind of slacking, in a sense, to read lots of random Wikipedia articles, keep up with current events, browse arXiv papers not directly on the topic of your current work, keep up with recent music, etc. Arguably reading a lot is not really slacking. But maybe keeping up with recent musical trends is? Seems all quite subjective, unless you literally are doing nothing.<p>I tend to see it more as different thought/work styles along several axes. For example, on a question of dabbling in side projects, for some people it'd be good advice to suggest laying off and concentrating more on one thing, while for others, encouraging a bunch of side projects is exactly the right advice. Some people need to do less random-walk reading, while maybe others need to do more...</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085077&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084839 href="vote?for=4084839&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084839></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=jaxn">jaxn</a> 15 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084839">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I tend to agree.<p>I think we measure ourselves against our peer group and the more slackers we hang around the more mediocrity seems like success.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084839&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084979 href="vote?for=4084979&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084979></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=delive">delive</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084979">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I actually had the opposite situation growing up and it seemed to help me. I was certainly surrounded by slackers, with a few really motivated people sprinkled in-between. I'd say seeing mediocrity motivated me to differentiate myself and do some really cool things.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084979&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085388 href="vote?for=4085388&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085388></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=bking">bking</a> 13 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085388">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>There is no way to keep up close rlationships with everyone you meet so it is important to give preference to people with the qualities that you most admire and desire to replicate.<p>Driven, Creative, Intelligent, professional, and Open-minded are a couple of my general "qualifications" I use when deciding where I should put my effort.<p>It might sound cold and calculating, but that is because I am trying to put no bias into it. I promis I am not that ruthless and cold.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085388&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4086881 href="vote?for=4086881&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4086881></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=lbraasch">lbraasch</a> 5 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4086881">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>To quote a previous HN article:<p>"You are the average of your 3 closest friends"<p>Pick your friends wisely.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4086881&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084816 href="vote?for=4084816&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084816></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=yawgmoth">yawgmoth</a> 15 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084816">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>Also surround yourself with slackers. Surround yourself with people every type you can. Learn from them all. Even the lazy ones can teach you things.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084816&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=40></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084996 href="vote?for=4084996&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084996></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=nswanberg">nswanberg</a> 14 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084996">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>"Surround yourself with everyone" isn't really actionable advice. It'd be sort of like hanging out at the mall or the quad of a large univerity. Maybe instead spend some time with the niches and factions of life. To continue the university analogy: stop by the chess club, hang out with some rowers, say "hi" to the debate team, show up at the stoners' party.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4084996&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=80></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085198 href="vote?for=4085198&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085198></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=pashamur">pashamur</a> 13 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085198">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>As a chess-playing collegiate rower who likes engage in random debates with people, I think I've done all of the above :) Variety is definitely important to keep things interesting - I think getting stuck in one "niche" circle is fairly alienating - even if that niche group gets shit done. You start filtering people based on some common preconceptions. Being part of several different groups with differing viewpoints, on the other hand, should make you value individuality more and be a more rounded/easier person to be around.<p>Just my $0.02</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085198&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085241 href="vote?for=4085241&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085241></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=prisonguard">prisonguard</a> 13 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085241">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I have been using a much simplified version of the Pomodoro Method to encourage teenagers to do homework/work individually without distractions in class.<p>Modest progress; I'll push it earlier next year</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085511&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4085588 href="vote?for=4085588&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4085588></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=allardschip"><font color=#3c963c>allardschip</font></a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4085588">link</a></span></div><br>
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+ <span class="comment"><font color=#000000>I would not teach my children to hang out with people to get things done per se. Just start getting stuff done regardless of others and as a nice side-effect you will find yourself hanging out with others who get stuff done.</font></span><p><font size=1><u><a href="reply?id=4085588&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33">reply</a></u></font></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border=0><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=1 width=0></td><td valign=top><center><a id=up_4084664 href="vote?for=4084664&dir=up&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%34%30%38%34%36%30%33"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4084664></span></center></td><td class="default"><div style="margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-10px; "><span class="comhead"><a href="user?id=CharlesPal">CharlesPal</a> 15 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4084664">link</a></span></div><br>
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A proof of Ikea's excellence</a><span class="comhead"> (lengrand.fr) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4036515>32 points</span> by <a href="user?id=jlengrand">jlengrand</a> 2 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4036515">19 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">7.</td><td><center><a id=up_4036717 href="vote?for=4036717&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4036717></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://rbutr.com/">Rbutr: a browser extension that finds rebuttals to web pages you're reading</a><span class="comhead"> (rbutr.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4036717>11 points</span> by <a href="user?id=MichaelJW">MichaelJW</a> 1 hour ago | <a href="item?id=4036717">6 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">8.</td><td><center><a id=up_4036458 href="vote?for=4036458&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4036458></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ibdknox/light-table">3 days left to pledge for Python in Light Table</a><span class="comhead"> (kickstarter.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4036458>25 points</span> by <a href="user?id=trueduke">trueduke</a> 2 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4036458">14 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">9.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035516 href="vote?for=4035516&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035516></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://sachagreif.com/why-cheap-customers-cost-more/">Why cheap customers cost more</a><span class="comhead"> (sachagreif.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035516>159 points</span> by <a href="user?id=sgdesign">sgdesign</a> 9 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035516">43 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">10.</td><td><center><a id=up_4036142 href="vote?for=4036142&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4036142></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/05/18/kalzumeus-podcast-ep-2-with-amy-hoy-pricing-products-and-passion/">Kalzumeus (patio11) Podcast Ep. 2 with Amy Hoy: Pricing, Products, And Passion</a><span class="comhead"> (kalzumeus.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4036142>47 points</span> by <a href="user?id=Smerity">Smerity</a> 4 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4036142">5 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">11.</td><td><center><a id=up_4036083 href="vote?for=4036083&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4036083></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://savethesounds.info/">Museum of Endangered Sounds</a><span class="comhead"> (savethesounds.info) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4036083>47 points</span> by <a href="user?id=slaundy">slaundy</a> 5 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4036083">13 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">12.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035923 href="vote?for=4035923&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035923></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="https://github.com/jbarham/go-cdb">Pure Go implementation of D. 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Bernstein's cdb constant database library</a><span class="comhead"> (github.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035923>45 points</span> by <a href="user?id=SlimHop">SlimHop</a> 6 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035923">15 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">13.</td><td></td><td class="title"><a href="item?id=4036545">Smartphone/web hackers: join a 5-person post-series-A team (YC W12)</a></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext">2 hours ago</td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">14.</td><td><center><a id=up_4034147 href="vote?for=4034147&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4034147></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://redactorjs.com/">Redactor - javascript (jQuery) WYSIWYG editor</a><span class="comhead"> (redactorjs.com) 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href="vote?for=4036194&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4036194></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://erronis.nl/2012/05/25/why-i-will-not-negotiate-with-you-about-cost/">Why I will not negotiate with you about cost</a><span class="comhead"> (erronis.nl) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4036194>47 points</span> by <a href="user?id=evanderkoogh">evanderkoogh</a> 4 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4036194">32 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">17.</td><td><center><a id=up_4036017 href="vote?for=4036017&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4036017></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2144275086/lib-ray-non-drm-open-standards-hd-video-format">Lib-Ray: Non-DRM Open-Standards HD Video Format</a><span class="comhead"> (kickstarter.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4036017>37 points</span> by <a href="user?id=Sander_Marechal">Sander_Marechal</a> 6 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4036017">13 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">18.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035986 href="vote?for=4035986&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035986></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="https://github.com/richy486/InvaderR#readme">Build your first iOS Game: Simple space invaders on github</a><span class="comhead"> (github.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035986>38 points</span> by <a href="user?id=gvnn">gvnn</a> 6 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035986">4 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">19.</td><td><center><a id=up_4034528 href="vote?for=4034528&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4034528></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/us/shots-heard-pinpointed-and-argued-over.html?pagewanted=all">Gunshot detection system transforms and raises issues </a><span class="comhead"> (nytimes.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4034528>179 points</span> by <a href="user?id=mindblink">mindblink</a> 16 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4034528">139 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">20.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035978 href="vote?for=4035978&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035978></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://pandodaily.com/2012/05/24/matt-mullenweg-im-worried-that-silicon-valley-might-be-destroying-the-world/">Matt Mullenweg: I’m Worried That Silicon Valley Might Be Destroying the World</a><span class="comhead"> (pandodaily.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035978>41 points</span> by <a href="user?id=diego">diego</a> 6 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035978">33 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">21.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035916 href="vote?for=4035916&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035916></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Introduction-to-CUDA-C">Introduction to CUDA C</a><span class="comhead"> (infoq.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035916>35 points</span> by <a href="user?id=Garbage">Garbage</a> 6 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035916">16 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">22.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035964 href="vote?for=4035964&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035964></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2012/05/28/birds-may-be-paedomorphic-dinosaurs/">Birds may be paedomorphic dinosaurs</a><span class="comhead"> (whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035964>34 points</span> by <a href="user?id=tokenadult">tokenadult</a> 6 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035964">10 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">23.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035827 href="vote?for=4035827&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035827></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://clintonforbes.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/universal-standard-library.html">The Universal Standard Library</a><span class="comhead"> (blogspot.com.au) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035827>51 points</span> by <a href="user?id=ryan-allen">ryan-allen</a> 7 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035827">27 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">24.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035468 href="vote?for=4035468&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035468></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.robg3d.com/?p=949">Why I Hate Test Driven Development</a><span class="comhead"> (robg3d.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035468>79 points</span> by <a href="user?id=reinhardt">reinhardt</a> 10 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035468">49 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">25.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035476 href="vote?for=4035476&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035476></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/blogs/blunt-instrument/avast-ye-scurvy-dogs-here-be-my-answer-to-piracy-20120528-1zegt.html">Author John Birmingham on eBook Piracy</a><span class="comhead"> (brisbanetimes.com.au) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035476>56 points</span> by <a href="user?id=Tsagadai">Tsagadai</a> 10 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035476">15 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">26.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035559 href="vote?for=4035559&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035559></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://blog.ponoko.com/2012/05/25/reprap-printed-circuits/">RepRap printed circuits</a><span class="comhead"> (ponoko.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035559>44 points</span> by <a href="user?id=ph0rque">ph0rque</a> 9 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035559">11 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">27.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035822 href="vote?for=4035822&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035822></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2012/05/28/why-read-and-write-tech-books/">Why read and write tech books?</a><span class="comhead"> (johndcook.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035822>27 points</span> by <a href="user?id=michael_fine">michael_fine</a> 7 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035822">7 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">28.</td><td><center><a id=up_4034515 href="vote?for=4034515&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4034515></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/">The Open Goldberg Variations</a><span class="comhead"> (opengoldbergvariations.org) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4034515>119 points</span> by <a href="user?id=voodoochilo">voodoochilo</a> 16 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4034515">31 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">29.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035156 href="vote?for=4035156&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035156></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/science/earths-core-the-enigma-1800-miles-below-us.html">The Earth's core: the enigma 1,800 miles below us </a><span class="comhead"> (nytimes.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035156>69 points</span> by <a href="user?id=ValentineC">ValentineC</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035156">22 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">30.</td><td><center><a id=up_4035337 href="vote?for=4035337&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4035337></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/28/the-art-of-raising-seed-youre-either-hot-or-you-make-your-own-heat/">The Art of Raising Seed: You’re Either Hot, Or You Make Your Own Heat</a><span class="comhead"> (techcrunch.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4035337>46 points</span> by <a href="user?id=dariusmonsef">dariusmonsef</a> 11 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4035337">7 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr style="height:10px"></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="title"><a href="news2">More</a></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/s.gif" height=10 width=0><table width="100%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1><tr><td bgcolor=#ff6600></td></tr></table><br>
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Own our automation.</a><span class="comhead"> (olark.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext">2 minutes ago</td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">5.</td><td><center><a id=up_4105397 href="vote?for=4105397&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4105397></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2012/06/dragonbox/all/">DragonBox: Algebra beats Angry birds</a><span class="comhead"> (wired.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4105397>58 points</span> by <a href="user?id=aymeric">aymeric</a> 2 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4105397">8 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">6.</td><td><center><a id=up_4105891 href="vote?for=4105891&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4105891></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://blog.readability.com/2012/06/announcement/">Readability : An Important Announcement</a><span class="comhead"> (readability.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4105891>17 points</span> by <a href="user?id=bjonathan">bjonathan</a> 37 minutes ago | <a href="item?id=4105891">3 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">7.</td><td><center><a id=up_4105768 href="vote?for=4105768&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4105768></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/series/unix-as-ide/?">Using unix as your IDE</a><span class="comhead"> (sanctum.geek.nz) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4105768>22 points</span> by <a href="user?id=mgrouchy">mgrouchy</a> 1 hour ago | <a href="item?id=4105768">2 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">8.</td><td><center><a id=up_4105435 href="vote?for=4105435&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4105435></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://blog.disqus.com/post/25017922977/the-new-disqus-2012">The new Disqus 2012: Elevating the Discussion</a><span class="comhead"> (disqus.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4105435>29 points</span> by <a href="user?id=dctrwatson">dctrwatson</a> 2 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4105435">17 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">9.</td><td><center><a id=up_4105302 href="vote?for=4105302&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4105302></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://calnewport.com/blog/2012/06/12/what-you-know-matters-more-than-what-you-do/">What you know matters more than what you do</a><span class="comhead"> (calnewport.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4105302>50 points</span> by <a href="user?id=ridruejo">ridruejo</a> 3 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4105302">8 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">10.</td><td><center><a id=up_4105383 href="vote?for=4105383&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4105383></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57450838-93/here-comes-the-greatest-internet-landgrab-in-history/?tag=postrtcol;posts">Here comes the greatest Internet landgrab in history</a><span class="comhead"> (cnet.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4105383>32 points</span> by <a href="user?id=iand">iand</a> 2 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4105383">15 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">11.</td><td><center><a id=up_4103344 href="vote?for=4103344&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4103344></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://niederfamily.blogspot.be/2012/06/silencing-of-maya.html">The Silencing of Maya</a><span class="comhead"> (niederfamily.blogspot.be) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4103344>563 points</span> by <a href="user?id=kngl">kngl</a> 15 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4103344">225 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">12.</td><td><center><a id=up_4105446 href="vote?for=4105446&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4105446></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/application-results/strings-1200utc-13jun12-en">New gTLD Applied-For Strings</a><span class="comhead"> (icann.org) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4105446>77 points</span> by <a href="user?id=grose">grose</a> 2 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4105446">102 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">13.</td><td><center><a id=up_4104486 href="vote?for=4104486&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4104486></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18419231">Linus Torvalds: Linux succeed thanks to selfishness and trust</a><span class="comhead"> (bbc.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4104486>130 points</span> by <a href="user?id=sparknlaunch">sparknlaunch</a> 8 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4104486">31 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">14.</td><td><center><a id=up_4104958 href="vote?for=4104958&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4104958></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.mode7games.com/blog/2012/06/12/how-to-be-an-indie-game-developer/">How to Be an Indie Game Developer</a><span class="comhead"> (mode7games.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4104958>49 points</span> by <a href="user?id=hk__2">hk__2</a> 5 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4104958">3 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">15.</td><td><center><a id=up_4104402 href="vote?for=4104402&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4104402></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://swaaanson.tumblr.com/post/25005539624/kindle-notes-inside-apple-by-adam-lashinsky">Lessons from Inside Apple: Why Focus is Horrifyingly Scary</a><span class="comhead"> (swaaanson.tumblr.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4104402>112 points</span> by <a href="user?id=swany4">swany4</a> 9 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4104402">37 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">16.</td><td><center><a id=up_4101992 href="vote?for=4101992&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4101992></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://blog.hooktheory.com/2012/06/06/i-analyzed-the-chords-of-1300-popular-songs-for-patterns-this-is-what-i-found/">I analyzed the chords to 1300 popular songs for patterns. This is what I found.</a><span class="comhead"> (hooktheory.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4101992>428 points</span> by <a href="user?id=davec">davec</a> 19 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4101992">177 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">17.</td><td><center><a id=up_4104259 href="vote?for=4104259&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4104259></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q2/504">Ruby on Rails SQL Injection</a><span class="comhead"> (seclists.org) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4104259>130 points</span> by <a href="user?id=lelf">lelf</a> 10 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4104259">24 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">18.</td><td><center><a id=up_4105906 href="vote?for=4105906&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4105906></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://hsafoundation.com/" rel="nofollow">HSA Foundation</a><span class="comhead"> (hsafoundation.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4105906>4 points</span> by <a href="user?id=protomyth">protomyth</a> 35 minutes ago | <a href="item?id=4105906">discuss</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">19.</td><td><center><a id=up_4105504 href="vote?for=4105504&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4105504></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="https://speakerdeck.com/u/asotirov/p/analyzing-the-md5-collision-in-flame">Analysis of the MD5 collision attack used by the Flame malware</a><span 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style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">21.</td><td><center><a id=up_4102248 href="vote?for=4102248&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4102248></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/frontal-cortex/2012/06/daniel-kahneman-bias-studies.html">Why Smart People Are Stupid</a><span class="comhead"> (newyorker.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4102248>266 points</span> by <a href="user?id=mshafrir">mshafrir</a> 19 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4102248">205 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">22.</td><td><center><a id=up_4105310 href="vote?for=4105310&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4105310></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.ia.ucsb.edu/pa/display.aspx?pkey=2748">New Evidence Supports Theory of Extraterrestrial Impact</a><span class="comhead"> (ucsb.edu) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4105310>16 points</span> by <a href="user?id=J3L2404">J3L2404</a> 3 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4105310">3 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">23.</td><td><center><a id=up_4100032 href="vote?for=4100032&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4100032></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/uxpil/ive_been_playing_the_same_game_of_civilization_ii/">Civ II game a decade old</a><span class="comhead"> (reddit.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4100032>448 points</span> by <a href="user?id=jchrisa">jchrisa</a> 1 day ago | <a href="item?id=4100032">122 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">24.</td><td><center><a id=up_4104069 href="vote?for=4104069&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4104069></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://entagen.github.com/jenkins-build-per-branch/">Use Jenkins "Build Per Branch" for Git Feature Branch Development</a><span class="comhead"> (github.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4104069>66 points</span> by <a href="user?id=tednaleid">tednaleid</a> 11 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4104069">21 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">25.</td><td><center><a id=up_4105317 href="vote?for=4105317&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4105317></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="https://github.com/ericmoritz/wsdemo/blob/master/results.md">WebSocket benchmarks</a><span class="comhead"> (github.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4105317>8 points</span> by <a href="user?id=gmcabrita">gmcabrita</a> 3 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4105317">1 comment</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">26.</td><td><center><a id=up_4104541 href="vote?for=4104541&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4104541></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.core77.com/blog/technology/mit_researchers_produce_micro-light_that_outputs_more_energy_than_it_takes_in_22644.asp">MIT Researchers Produce Micro-Light that Outputs More Power Than Applied</a><span class="comhead"> (core77.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4104541>41 points</span> by <a href="user?id=jnand">jnand</a> 8 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4104541">27 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">27.</td><td><center><a id=up_4103921 href="vote?for=4103921&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4103921></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.1024cores.net/home/lock-free-algorithms">Lockfree algorithms</a><span class="comhead"> (1024cores.net) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4103921>73 points</span> by <a href="user?id=azernik">azernik</a> 12 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4103921">11 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">28.</td><td><center><a id=up_4104510 href="vote?for=4104510&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4104510></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://www.romymisra.com/growth-hacker-the-new-in-thing/">Growth Hackers - the new "in" thing</a><span class="comhead"> (romymisra.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4104510>34 points</span> by <a href="user?id=romymisra">romymisra</a> 8 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4104510">16 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">29.</td><td><center><a id=up_4104262 href="vote?for=4104262&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4104262></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://venturebeat.com/2012/06/12/thiel-fellowship-2012/">Peter Thiel gives new class of students $100K to forgo college</a><span class="comhead"> (venturebeat.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4104262>52 points</span> by <a href="user?id=jackyyappp">jackyyappp</a> 10 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4104262">45 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr><td align=right valign=top class="title">30.</td><td><center><a id=up_4101355 href="vote?for=4101355&dir=up&whence=%6e%65%77%73"><img src="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif" border=0 vspace=3 hspace=2></a><span id=down_4101355></span></center></td><td class="title"><a href="http://alanhollis.com/first-month-freelancing/">My first month freelancing</a><span class="comhead"> (alanhollis.com) </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="subtext"><span id=score_4101355>178 points</span> by <a href="user?id=Alan01252">Alan01252</a> 21 hours ago | <a href="item?id=4101355">107 comments</a></td></tr><tr style="height:5px"></tr><tr style="height:10px"></tr><tr><td colspan=2></td><td class="title"><a 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+ it "should handle []" do
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+ end
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+ describe CommentParser do
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+ subject { CommentParser.new }
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+ c.time_string.should == '14 hours ago'
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+ c.level.should == 0
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- requirement: &70183838036120 !ruby/object:Gem::Requirement
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